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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-09-06 07:00 pm

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-06 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm fed up with people thinking these people are actually influential. They're not, most of the time. They're either very conventionally attractive or young.
I wish more of us would realize that "influencer" is not an actual job.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-06 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Influencers today - or, if you don't like the word "influencers", people whose primary skill is creating personas and content on social media - are the equivalent of Hollywood about 1912.

You and I may not like it, but it's not going to go away, it's only going to get bigger. Social media influencing is the wave of the future in entertainment and culture. Social media is increasingly a central pillar through which people live their lives and navigate culture. And relating to a fanbase through social media, and cultivating a persona and parasocial relationships and having some form of charisma that people want to see through that medium, is going to be a huge part of that for the foreseeable future. It's a job and it's going to be a more and more important job. Especially since people have as yet barely started to scratch the surface on monetizing it.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-07 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT
We don't have to feed the beast, we can just simply not pay attention and trash it to everyone we know.
These "influencers" should make something useful their new primary skill. Otherwise they'll be in the street eating dirt and grass during the next recession.

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-07 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
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Sorry if it sounded like I was being bitchy to you; I wasn't. I just cannot believe being pretty and telling people "This weight loss tea worked for me, along with this new waterproof mascara from Modern Bimbo, Incorporated! I totes recommend them!" is considered a real job.

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-07 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT--see, I get writers/artists/people who create something having to market themselves on social media and fans forming parasocial relationships around that. I don't get "influencers" who are just popular because they're popular like some kind of minor fame ouroboros. There's been rich people famous for their excesses and beautiful people famous for their beauty for pretty much ever, but I don't get being invested in random people's lives just because they overshare on the internet.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-07 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
eh, as soon as these kids figure out they basically run a small Business and have to pay taxes on it, theyll probably balk. it's all nice n fun until the government wants its share of profit.

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[personal profile] tei 2021-09-06 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Whether or not any individual "influencer" is actually influential is a matter of debate, but the industry itself is absolutely culturally influential. This article, about "content houses" where kids are paid to learn how to produce content that brands want on tiktok, was eye-opening for me. This is a career path that a lot of young people are exposed to and think is a reasonable thing to pursue.

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-07 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Absolutely, OP. I also find it disgusting that people use their children in particular (without their consent) to feed their narcissism.
I also disagree with the commenters stating influencers are "part of the future" "Get used to it". Influencers are generally seen as narcissistic in our society and are laughed at. Sure, some are making big money but most aren't. That's the same in every industry of self promotion. I work with teenagers and feel they need to be given credit for not jumping on the influencer bandwagon. Sure, some do. But a lot don't.

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-06 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but you can just not pay attention. I'm not on Instagram and the YouTube algorithm knows better than to rec me this stuff so I just flat out never see it and it does not affect my life.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-07 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
But it very much affects the lives of the kids that are being exploited for 'content'. Shit like this should be illegal.

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-07 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
The ones using their kids for content are the people I can't fucking stand and there needs to be actual laws to protect kids from being exploited that way.

The people just shilling shit don't bother me at all, because they're just doing what regular celebs do all the time anyway. The only time I'll take onus with this is if they're trying to sell those awful detox teas or diets that actually do harm to people's bodies, if they're just trying to push some random make-up or clothes I don't care I just ignore that.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-07 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with all of this! ^^^

(Anonymous) 2021-09-07 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Family channels are the absolute worst, people hawking their kids for content without their consent (and I absolutely believe they have more kids once the older ones stop being 'cute,' this is how shit like the Stauffer family giving up their adopted kid like he's a dog happens). I fully expect in another 5-10 years we'll be seeing a lot of these kids speaking up about how harmful it was to them to have their entire childhoods broadcasted for everyone to see.

[personal profile] hey_hey_hey 2021-09-07 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Keep kid pictures off the internet until they're old enough to give informed consent.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-07 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
+1, my nephew does Tiktok vids (he's a gamer) but he had no online presence until he turned 18 because his parents strictly forbade it. They didn't even have baby pictures on Facebook. I think that's really smart - and now he's old enough to choose what he puts out there.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-07 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2021-09-07 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
It annoys me when I follow someone for a certain type of content, but then they have a baby and their channel is suddenly all about the baby instead of the content I signed up for.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-07 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
hard agree. It's gross and exploitative. blech

(Anonymous) 2021-09-07 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
thank you for making my secret, secret maker!
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[personal profile] arashinoookami 2021-09-07 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
Future court cases in the making (just look at the guy from the Nirvana cover).

(Anonymous) 2021-09-07 10:15 am (UTC)(link)
Did you keep up with the Stauffer family stuff? They adopted a kid, asked for donations for the adoption, made content with the kid, and then gave the kid up to another family when they couldn't deal with him.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-07 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Not OP

But Jesus Christ, that’s awful! These people are scumbags!
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[personal profile] dantesspirit 2021-09-07 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
This happens more often than people realize, in adoptions, unfortunately.
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[personal profile] dantesspirit 2021-09-07 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
With the advent of social media and how widespread the internet now is, it was inevitable that there would be those who found ways to use themselves to make money.

In many ways, influencer is another term for grifter. Don't get me wrong- I'm sure there are legitimate 'influencers', but really, it's all a grift. They want you to buy whatever they're pushing and they get paid to do it.

Eventually, those children they use in said grifts, will grow up, and realize, mom and dad got paid the big bucks to use them as propaganda and they never got a penny. They'll walk away and not look back. ( The Duggar family comes to mind in this regard- one of the older daughters learned her father was getting between 25k and 45k *per episode* and *none* of the kids saw any of it. She walked away from the whole shebang, as have 4 of her sisters so far.)

In the grand scheme of things, 'influencers' are still relatively new, but it's rapidly becoming a saturated field and that bubble will burst, sooner or later.