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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-09-10 06:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #5362 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5362 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Natsume Yuujinchou]


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[Joan Jett & Debbie Harry]



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05. [SPOILERS for Ted Lasso]




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06. [SPOILERS for Moral Orel]




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07. [WARNING for discussion of abuse]




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08. [WARNING for discussion of child sexual abuse]




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09. [WARNING for discussion of domestic violence]




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(Anonymous) 2021-09-10 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe the 17yo would like to get laid?

I haven't watched the movie and I'm a LGBTQ woman so clearly I have no dog in this fight, but why won't you consider the fact that almost legal teenagers do want to have sex with adults irl? It's like a really common fantasy that you grow out of when you get older.

I'm not advocating adults having sex with, say, 14 yo, but can't we stop pretending that teenagers over 16 don't have any sexual feelings whatsoever?

(Anonymous) 2021-09-11 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
that's why it's important for the adults to say no??? that is their responsibility? lmao

(Anonymous) 2021-09-11 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
A 17-year old is free to have sexual thoughts, but god am I not going to get even involved with someone out of my age range. I do not want to be the person that they think of years later saying "...hey, why the fuck did a 35-year old person have sex with me?" That would kill me inside, and I would only be a fucking loser for doing so.

Essentially flip the genders and make this about any typical male hollywood star dating someone straight out of highschool (or younger, as sometimes happens), and you'll see the power imbalances, the skeeze, and the cradlerobbing. Fine for fiction if you enjoy the problematic stuff, but IRL it's different when there have been plenty of people who have been taken advantage of this way.

I'm fine with the interiority of the book's exploration of the main character discovering their homosexuality by being sexually attracted by someone way older than him. Good for him, it's happened to a lot of people. But I have no respect for the older person for dating him. Essentially it's like if 17-year old me found a middle-aged-and-older hollywood actor sexy, but then losing all respect for him if the hollywood actor came out and said he wanted to marry me. Gross. It's fair to the hollywood actor because of the imbalance involved. Don't get involved with even the horniest of young people.

SA

(Anonymous) 2021-09-11 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Also, disregard my above post. Let me just ask you in return if IRL you'd have sex with the horniest 17-year old on the planet.

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2021-09-11 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

You do realize you're asking this question of an anonymous commenter, right? I mean, if she's 18 years old, this attempt at a gotcha is incredibly dumb.

And if she's, say, 60 years old, it's also incredibly dumb, because there's a massive difference between asking someone "Would you have sex with a late teen who's seven years younger than you?" and asking someone "Would you have sex with a late teen who's young enough to be your grandchild?"

Honestly, I think you'd be able to talk about the relationship in the film with a lot more clarity if you weren't projecting yourself and your own age and circumstances all over every part of this discussion.

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2021-09-11 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
+10000000

(Anonymous) 2021-09-11 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT but goodie for you, this isn't what this story is about, though.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-11 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Learn how to read, why don't you?

(Anonymous) 2021-09-11 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
Op if you think that no 17yo of any gender ever had a good relationship with a 24yo, you are wrong. Is it a good choice for a teen, no. Are they always predatory no. This movie is just a snapshot of two fictional lives, not a manual on what a first relationship should be like.
And if you think that this movie is glorifying creeping on underage people, when it ends with the teen being heartbroken because the older man considered their relationship not worth continuing and discarded him at the end of the summer to marry his girlfriend, then you probably did not watch the movie.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-11 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Cosigned.

Thank you for saying what I wanted to say in this bizzare conversation.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-11 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
If he was a few months older and 18, would that be ok? If so, then ask yourself why exactly. Nothing magical happens to your brain on the day of your 18th birthday. Maybe you think 17 is immoral and 18 isn't, because you were raised in a culture where that's the predominant view, research on brain development be damned? And maybe if the story took place in modern-day America I would agree that it's wrong to portray this kind of relationship in fiction, but since it's set in the past and in a country where such age gap is considered acceptable, I don't see the reason to clutch my pearls over it.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-11 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
Essentially it's like if 17-year old me found a middle-aged-and-older hollywood actor sexy, but then losing all respect for him if the hollywood actor came out and said he wanted to marry me.

24 years old is middle-aged now?!?!

(Anonymous) 2021-09-11 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Teens having those feelings isn't the problem, the problem is if the ADULT gives into them. There is absolutely no fucking reason for a grown-ass adult to sleep with a teenager, none.