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⌈ Secret Post #781 ⌋

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To that first comment: That's not an excuse. Mai didn't know he was with the Avatar, or that the Avatar was even someone to be trusted. All she knew was that her brother was held by three "rebels," three enemies, allied with the people her family and country had been suppressing for many years. She had absolutely no way of knowing her brother was safe; if anything, the fact that it was three rebel sympathizers holding him hostage should have made her that much more afraid for his life.

And I really don't know about that "sideways glare"--her eyes have always been thinner/more angled than other characters, so I thought it was just a regular glance.

And you're missing the point entirely.

It wasn't meant to be a comment on Mai, just on the points she made in her defense of Mai. So you can put away your angry icon now.

It's the only Avatar one I have.

Haha ok.

Assuming you're right about Mai's perspective (which I have some reservations about but whatever) I ask again: what was she supposed to have done, exactly?

As I said elsewhere, this is the FIRST EPISODE she ever appeared in, when she had only just reconnected with Azula and hadn't gone through all the experiences and learned the lessons that would eventually bring her to the place where she could openly defy her princess. And if she HAD hurled her body between Azula and Tom Tom, not only would that have been a completely pointless sacrifice on her part, it would also have...you know. Skipped her entire character arc.

Since her little brother was involved, I do think she should have done something 'reckless' or whatever, cause honestly in those situations you can't just do nothing.

But I understand your second point and I agree with the character arc thing hands down. In this case it seems more like the writer's fault, in that they choose the wrong situation to show how subservient Mai starts out towards Azula. Putting the little brother in the mix made it more controversial than it had to be.

I wouldn't call it a writer's fault, actually, since it seemed like the idea was not only showing Mai as listening to Azula, but as not caring about anything because she feels powerless to change anything. Futile gestures are completely incomprehensible to Mai when she starts out. Which is probably why she's at the same time attracted to the guy who got doomed to a life that's one big futile gesture and committed to it just for the honor. It's not that she just falls in love with Zuko so will put herself in danger for him--she fights throughout the show, after all. It's that Zuko gives her enough hope to see that sometimes a futile gesture is worth it.

MEG ILU SO MUCH

I kind of want to put some of these comments together into a little miniessay over on

maizuko and may very well include this! <3

Please do! I just spit it out again on my lj because I feel like ATLA should always be praised for things it does well.:-D

I have to remember to read the essay if you put it up!

Hm. I'm sure I recalled them knowing it was the Avatar who was involved but maybe I was mistaken. But even then, her brother was never really threatened and she didn't have any reason to think her brother would be killed. In my opinion, I still think Mai chose what she thought was safest.

Even considering that, anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows that if you kill or damage your hostage you lose your leverage.

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