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⌈ Secret Post #782 ⌋

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101. You made me facepalm so hard that my brain went flying out the back of my head. OP, you owe me one new brain. (Elasi-Girl was one of the most interesting female characters of the past few years, as far as I'm concerned. In fact, I am looking for any indication that they somehow write detrimental or weakened characters. I love the movies, but I would like to hear arguments as such, because I'm interested in how other people see these movies.)

108. I can't even look at a picture of Tony Slattery without thinking of the "Bag Rap" and laughing hysterically. I guess it's this reason that I've always seen him as an oddly neuter character. I'll admit to thinking Josie Laurence incredibly cute, but Tony Slattery registers nothing at all for me. Hum.

119. Signed! To be honest, the only kind of zombie movies I can stomach are romantic comedy takeoffs. Well, and "The Serpent and the Rainbow," but that hardly counts.

123. First thoughts through my mind: "What show is that?" "She's a robot?" "Well, Summer Glau certainly has competition, doesn't she?" My mind takes me to odd places.

159/160. Kane and Tiffany's in a row! That's a hell of a one-two classics punch.

I don't speak for the OP but my criticism of Pixar stems not from that their female characters are weak, but rather in the majority of the films they take a backseat to the male characters, and the lack of lead characters being female in their films, their stories are for the most part very much centered around boys, even if they sometimes are given meaningful arcs.

That's definitely a reading I hadn't considered, but I can see why that'd be bothersome. To be honest, I'm so used to criticism of film in general that bemoans the lack of decently-written female characters that I didn't think of placement of those characters as well. I'd love to have some movies which have excellently-written female characters who are also at the crux of the story, but those seem to be few and far between.

It's also a bit of an eye opener, if you've not already really considered it, to compare the number of female characters with speaking parts (not even considering what those parts are or what they say) to the male. You can work it out from looking at the credits listed on IMDB. In every single Pixar film to date there is a huge disparity.

101. Elastigirl was a sarcastic housewife...I mean, I don't dislike her, but she's definitely been done before and I didn't think she was noteworthy at all. Yea, she had superpowers, but so did most of the cast, that was the point of the movie. Eh.

I think that's a surface reading of the character. Elasti-Girl was the kind of character which Holly Hunter seeks out, at least when she's getting decent screenplays to work with: she's a career woman who had never considered that her position in life had changed. Most superhero movies would never write in a moment where, in the middle of the action, a character stops in front of a mirror to regard themselves and sigh, but this was the central crux of Elasti-Girl.

An accomplished pilot, a decorated hero, a dominant personality, and without even realizing it she had constricted herself and removed everything that made her unique for the sake of her children. In many ways, The Incredibles is her story. Her plot, following her as she attempts to regain everything that made her special while still attempting to provide for and shelter her children, is more compelling than anything else in the film. Also, there's no real sarcasm in her tone; it's obvious that whomever wrote her dialogue knew quite a many southern women with dry, droll senses of humor. If only more female characters were as well written.

That's a great analysis of the character.

Amen, amen. She was always my favorite part of the movie, and this was EXACTLY the way I perceived her and the movie.

In fact, one of my favorite parts is when she's flying the plane, dodging attacks, using her body to protect her children in the resulting explosion, and then waking up mid-fall to save them and herself again. That right there showed me her first moment proving that she CAN have her cake and eat it too, that she doesn't need to sacrifice herself in order to play the role of the housewife/mother.

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