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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-10-01 06:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #5383 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5383 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-10-03 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I hated it when I saw it in real time, but I was recently watching the season with a friend who hadn't seen it and I liked it a lot more.

I think the reasons that it wasn't well-received were the same reasons that most of the characters who were supposed to be recurring weren't well-received (so many of the women, for example) - the focus wasn't on Sam-and-Dean or Dean-and-Cas. In a backdoor pilot, this is theoretically more or less forgivable, but the SPN fandom was notoriously, um. Passionate.

It also didn't feel like an episode of Supernatural. My impression, watching it the second time, is that it was very much a sort of Vampire-Diaries-esque monster-politics show with the potential to edge into Police Procedural But With Monsters territory, which is not an objectively bad thing in a traditional pilot. Honestly, if I'd watched essentially the same show without the Winchester element at that time, I think I would have been pretty into it. Hell, I'd be into it now.

The one thing that stood out to me as absolutely not working was how Sam and Dean related to the episode's protagonists. Because the story needed its new protagonist to be the center of the story and solve the problems, both Winchesters (but particularly Dean, because he's the one who's Always Right) end up being markedly less competent than we're used to seeing. They make choices that drive the plot along really well and set up the protagonist really well, but that would end in disaster for them on a standard SPN episode - in other words, the story puts them in the position of the guest stars who need to be saved, and that was unpalatable to the part of the show's audience that was likely to be loud and outspoken about it.

Honestly, I find it hard to figure out how to incorporate an in-character Sam and Dean with The Monster Mafia In Chicago on a structural level. Dean should have tried to burn it all to the ground instead of just walking away, with how they had it set up, and that part of it ended up feeling unsatisfying in a way that wasn't compensated for by the perfectly good actual plot of the rest of the story. But it was a tricky problem to begin with, so it's not like I don't have sympathy for the writers.