[ SECRET POST #5396 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5396 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

05. https://i.imgur.com/59WXR9G.png

[tabaqui]

Omg, Julie Benz! I shall have to watch this.

[(Anonymous)]

Adding to my list.

[(Anonymous)]

Having seen all three, I personally think Jawbreaker (while not terrible) is just a 90's version of Heathers tbh and I prefer Heathers.

[meadowphoenix]

They all feel very specific to the time periods they're spoofing and their popularity reflects that imo (in other words I don't think Gen X kids really want to engage their high school years like this as much as millennials and boomers).

[(Anonymous)]

Wouldn't Heathers be Gen X though?

[meadowphoenix]

Its seems like mid-80s high school to me so late boomers, early gen x

[(Anonymous)]

Heathers was 88, and that would definitely be Gen X.

[meadowphoenix]

yeah that's when it came out, but as i said the time it's spoofing is mid-80s. that's when the screenwriter began writing it.

[(Anonymous)]

But the teens in the movie would have been Gen X at the time, and that’s who it was targeted at. I can vouch for this. The spoof nature of Heathers doesn’t mean it wasn’t still a teen movie that high schoolers at the time could get the satire of. It could be enjoyed by everyone though, of course.

But if you’re talking about the screenwriters...why? How is that relevant to the generation it was portraying? Screenwriters are always older than the teen and children’s movies they make, and that was especially true before indie films made by younger people became popular in the 90s.

I don’t mean to be rude or dismissive, I just don’t get what you’re trying to say. Gen X started at 1965.

[meadowphoenix]

I don't think you're being rude or dismissive. I'm talking about screenwriters because they don't actually always write contemporaneously. If a film is put out in 1985, then it was probably written in 1983 or earlier, unless there was an unusual amount of speed in productioon. My point about heathers is not that it's a spoof, it's that that specific upper high school aesthetic was not late 80s.

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm Gen X and I don't know about you, but I watched Fast Times at Ridgemont High (a few years after it came out, but still), all the John Hughes teen movies (Sixteen Candles, The Breakfast Club, Weird Science, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Pretty in Pink, Some Kind of Wonderful), Just One of the Guys, Better Off Dead, Lucas, Can't Buy Me Love, Hiding Out, Summer School, For Keeps, License to Drive, Satisfaction, Heathers, Pump Up the Volume, plus others I'm sure I'm forgetting and some of those movies might have been made by Boomers, but they were intended for Gen X because the majority of Gen X were the teens during the '80s (yes, some Boomers would still have been teens during the early '80s, but not anywhere near the majority of them).

Re: ??

[meadowphoenix]

As I said above I actually think it's a cusp issue. And I think a lot of 80s teen movies are intentionally backward-looking (and I think this is actually particularly true of Heathers, Fast Times is straight up about the early 80s and Hiding Out's premise pretty much requires a backward-looking perspective).

but frankly, I think we're going to disagree that movies set during high school are necessarily targeted toward teens in high school. i mean fast times is a rated r movie. my boomer mom and aunts and all their friends watched all those movies too, because they were the ones with disposable income. my gen x cousins watched 0 of those movies, because they were born late 70s.

[(Anonymous)]

“The best of satirical mean girl movies” Uh...

I mean, I like it. But it’s easily the worst in the satire department. And most other departments as well, in comparison to Heathers(which even critics at the time knew it was aping from) and Mean Girls.

I guess it could be subjective. But satire is usually considered less subjective than overall enjoyment. People can disagree with what something is satirizing, sure. But when the satire is clear in it’s message(and none of these films are subtle in the least), that’s when it’s easy to come to accepted consensus.