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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-10-21 05:51 pm

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(Anonymous) 2021-10-21 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
More likely it's because people tend to get feral if they perceive a piece of art as having a skin tone even one iota too light.

I've seen people harrassed out of a particular video game fandom for drawing certain (canonically white) characters as "too light-skinned" because carefully-selected screencaps with shitty lighting have them convinced they're actually a POC.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-21 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
is this the same people who accused overwatch of white-washing jesse mccree, their own character

(Anonymous) 2021-10-21 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Reminds me of what's happening in the Genshin Impact fandom. A few characters actually have slightly tanned/darker skin but a certain group of fandom slacktivists have decided they are black and hunt down anyone who draws them even slightly too light for their tastes.

Like, they could criticise the game all they want for not actually not having ANY black characters (because quite honestly, it doesn't really. Xinyan is a tanned faux-Chinese person likely based on an actual Chinese minority and Kaeya might be ambiguously brown but "he's black" seems like a bit of a stretch) but no. Instead they try to police anyone drawing fanart and usually with exactly zero clue about things like lighting or colour theory etc.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-22 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
No kidding, my FYP of TikTok (lol TikTok) is always an artist showing that they used a real reference from Kaeya to show they didn't white-wash him and you can notice they recorded it from their cellphone, the background was white or anything else to show the color difference and vultures still will claim "is white-washing a black character!" when Kaeya is not even black but tanned.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2021-10-21 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Is this the Dragon Age fandom? I know there was some serious harassment that boiled down to lighting differences.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-22 09:43 am (UTC)(link)
I'm still baffled on the stance on Alistair. He was definitely white in Inquisition, and you'd think his creators would know his skin color. But no, Bioware was obviously whitewashing him, and how dare you draw him like that?

(Anonymous) 2021-10-22 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but there are a few firelit scenes where everyone looks some shade of orange, so clearly he's actually POC, never mind that in any other lighting his skin tone is peak "white guy who has actually seen the sun sometime in the last month".

Also his mother's an elf, so he's clearly mixed, which means he's actually a POC and acknowledging his canonical appearance is violence.
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[personal profile] chamonix 2021-10-22 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
The Alistair thing is insane and has no basis in canon; he's always clearly been a moderately tan dude with white features. I don't have a problem with people drawing him POC, but Bioware cemented his look in Inquisition and it was clearly what had been in their minds all along.

However, there's actually a REAL discussion to be had about racism in the fandom around Isabela, with all the "prettier Isabela" mods that made her super white-skinned and blue-eyed, and people insisting she was originally white in Origins when she's legitimately the second darkest tone in the character creator. The devs stated she was always POC and people really showed their asses in how they reacted to that, bending over backwards to justify why she "couldn't" be that dark in DA2. It was gross. People need to let the Alistair thing go and look at the genuine shitshow that's happening behind it.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-22 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
This. I have witnessed countless artists in my fandom get attacked for "not drawing them dark enough". It's like they're not satisfied until the character is draw with skin several shades darker than the actual actors. (These people are almost always antis, too, ime, so I'm not necessarily shocked by their behavior).

(Anonymous) 2021-10-22 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, there's a weirdo in my fandom who draws an ethnically Irish character as practically black for no real reason except that she ... uh. Likes the character for some reason but openly hates white people?

And she gets shitty if people depict him as he actually is.

It wouldn't be as bad if there weren't three actually black characters and a hispanic dude in the main cast.