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⌈ Secret Post #5409 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think the buttons thing qualify as people thinking their dogs are talking to them the way you seem to infer. If a dog (or another animal) sees that each time they press a particular button, that always made the same series of sounds, the same thing always happens just after (food button = they get food, bath button = they have to take a bath, and so on), many intelligent enough animals are going to make the simple connection. And when their owners see their pets using it/reacting to it in a consistant manner, I don't believe they're crazy to think their pets know what they're doing. It IS a form of communication. Maybe we need more proof yet, but as someone who's not a pet owner (not anymore), has watch one video with a cat using the buttons, doesn't underestimate animals intelligence, but understand that they're still so much we don't know about it and that we still have a tendency to anthropomorphize, saying those people are delusional sounds more delusional to me.

[(Anonymous)]

* qualifies

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe we haven’t seen the same videos. I can definitely believe that animals like dogs and cats could learn to associate pressing a given button with an outcome. And obviously they’re able to be trained with simple verbal commands.

But lots of these people include buttons for more complex linguistic concepts, including prepositions and questions. And they seem to be trying to get their dogs to create sentences. Even the best trained primates and parrots struggle with language of that complexity.

The YouTube channel What About Bunny is a particularly ridiculous example.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT The one I've seen was, like I've said, about simple command like : eat, bath, walk... Nothing abstract.

[feotakahari]

I’m not sure how a dog would learn the point of the “dream” button, though. That’s one I’ve seen.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, that's a very reasonable interpretation of the phenomenon. Unfortunately, the people making these videos don't stop there, but imagine their pets making complex sentences and telling them about abstract concepts etc.