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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-10-28 04:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #5410 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5410 ⌋

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Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Rey was set up to be significant, but Rian threw that out. That Snoke was an increasing threat, but Rian threw that out. That Ben was feeling conflicted, but he threw that out too.

He didn't throw the Rey and Ben storylines out. He developed them. The idea that he made Rey insignificant is just... wrong. She's still the main character of the trilogy and a super powerful force user. She's not a member of the Skywalker family but that's not the same as being insignificant. He developed her narrative in an interesting way - she started with this very naive idea that the Jedi can solve everything and she just needs to find Like and he'll explain everything she has to do, and then she discovers it's more complicated. And he didn't throw the idea that Ben was conflicted out. He developed the idea in an interesting direction - he had Ben come up with what he thought was a solution to his conflicted feelings, but one that we know wasn't a real solution. You don't have to like that but it is a clear emotional throughline and it does pick up on what happens in TLJ. And both of those leave clear places for the next movie to go.

And he got rid of Snoke. Well, OK. It's a plot twist. You don't have to like it but the idea that it's totally crippling to the series seems bizarre to me. There seems to be this idea that Star Wars has to follow this very rigid structure - Star Wars *has* to have an all powerful dark lord, Star Wars *has* to have characters who are important specifically because of who there parents are, etc - and I just don't agree with that. I think it's too rigid and limiting. Nothing about TLJ departed from the spirit or the themes or the basic structure of Star Wars. It just put a little spin on it, the same way Empire did, or the same way the prequels did.

Obviously, yes, TLJ was divisive and a lot of people didn't like the choices Rian made. But there's a fundamental difference between a movie that's divisive because it makes aesthetic choices that aren't to some people's taste, and a movie that fundamentally does not work on a basic level of storytelling. And TROS is the latter. And it's completely mystifying what process resulted in that.

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
You keep trying to justify the bullshit, but it is still bullshit. And so are your justifications. Those were not developments, they were dismissals. And that is before we even get to the fridging of canon central characters, and lore breaking power usages. You are embarrassing yourself now. And stop trying to appropriate Empire, because I watched Empire and this was no Empire, that is just stupid what you are claiming there.

not ayrt, above anon

(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Aw you're just mad Luke died nonviolently instead of getting in a huge CGI lightsaber fight with the AT-AT walkers. I mean, I'm guessing that's what you're mad about, but I'm not sure since you didn't put forth any actual arguments. Aight! :o)