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⌈ Secret Post #5417 ⌋

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I'm with you, OP. I like Tudor history and all, but there's plenty of media about that era already and there'll be plenty more since Henry VIII has such huge name recognition in the general population. But I'd love to see more adaptations about other dynasties as well.

The audience for Tudor stuff is people who aren't interested in history they're interested in the wives of Henry VIII

Not that there's anything wrong with that. It is what it is.

He's not even the most interesting Tudor. His dad is where it was at as far as Tudor history goes. Henry is just a trust fund kid who fucked up everything his dad built and fucked around a lot. He's the Donald Trump of English Royalty, although perhaps a smidge less evil.

What about his younger daughter?

What, the Virgin Train? She never really left the station.

YES! HENRY VII STANS UNITE! Henry Tudor had an *extremely* dubious claim to the throne but he made it work, married Elizabeth of York who had a much better claim (and refused to remarry after her death) and set things up perfectly for a dynasty...only to have Henry VIII inherit.

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I say this as a Brit... Please can we have any other country's history instead???

Also, semi-seriously, I think it's the currently unfashionable clothes.

How about some Scottish, Welsh, or Irish history? There is a lot of British history that doesn't get covered, because it isn't English history. Which is what British is often conflated with. Failing that, lets learn some Danish. Sven Forkbeard, go!

The Tudors were a Welsh dynasty. Just look at their coat-of-arms. Fucking great dragon on it.

given how much everyone seems to know about Egypt, there is a severe lack of actual Egyptian dynastic history in fiction. Though if media shifted to that it would be 99% Cleopatra/Ptolomaic which, sure, even if you cut out all the urban legend and bullshit is still pretty damn factually dramatic to the max, but. It's not the only Egyptian dynasty with drama.

How about China? Why is it only Chinese historical drama media gets to do China? Japan?? I mean Japan itself milks the Sengoku era for all the drama and ho shit there was so much factual drama it's scary. Oh I know let's do the complex politics in Spain and Italy in Galileo's era, or the Italian Renaissance, there are so many interesting historical figures who did weird shit that makes for great TV. Tycho Brahe and his golden nose, please!

They did make a series about the Borgias, I think, so that's something. But there's an endless amount of stuff you could do in Italy during that period.

Germany history has some stuff that could be good. 30 Years War stuff would be great. Or War of the Spanish Succession or 7 Years War, I guess, but the 30 Years War really was complex and awesome. Some big thing about Wallenstein and Gustavus Adolphus. Or I guess somebody could adopt Neal Stephenson's Baroque Cycle. That would be amazing and insane.

I'm stil waiting for a good series on Eleanor of Aquitaine. It really shouldn't be that hard to do.

GOD PLEASE

A Proud Taste for Scarlet and Miniver alone would make an amazing series if you didn't want to do it super in-depth

They are interesting only if you skip Mary, who has been covered too often with the Tudor stuff, and end it with James VI. After that it is all downhill. Prior to that they are actually interesting, and only occasionally in a trash fire kind of way. But never entirely in a non trashfire kind of way.

I think we can all guess my favourite royal house though, and it isn't Stuart or later.

Well, we had "The Favourite", so I was expecting more Stuart shenanigans in movies but not so far! Have you seen "Restoration" from 1995?

Restoration? Though I suppose Charles II is more incidental to that film rather than it being about him.

There is a severe lack of media about James I and his boyfriends.

You mean James VI. James I was a well shady bastard though, and his life features a lot of piracy and slaughter and assassinations, with a well deserved final one of his own. There is no evidence he fucked about with boyfriends though.

Any opinions on Gunpowder, Treason & Plot, with Robert Carlyle as James VI/I?

I'd like to see something really well made and *accurate* about Lady Jane Grey. I really liked her as a historical figure.

Gee, I wonder why no one in England wants to glorify the Stuarts. e_e

Lots of drama, yes, but also between the Stuarts being Scottish, the Civil War, & the Pretenders, I imagine it's just all old wounds for Britain.

I don't get the sense that most people in England care about it anymore?

I think it's still a live issue in Scotland and Ireland to some extent, largely for sectarian reasons, but my impression is that it's just history for England.

The fact that for England it is just history, but that Scotland is still living with the aftermath in a lot of areas due to subsequent depopulations and a deliberate policy of impoverishment which has been continued by every subsequent Westminster parliament, is part of the reason that Scotland is very unhappy with the Union. Until the English can stop treating their actions as history, it will never be history. #ReperationsNow

Not always English history (most of them are actually French or more 'obscure' countries' rulers), but Nancy Goldstone has written some fabulous histories dealing with Queens and Kings and scandals and violence and love and they are gorgeous books full of fascinating figures who all deserve their own series and close looks.

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