[ SECRET POST #5431 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5431 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 07 secrets from Secret Submission Post #777.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

If someone is determined to lie and misrepresent to take you down, you don't need to have written anything at all, they can just make shit up. That was never part of my argument, because it's not something that anyone can help. And I have said previously that is someone goes out of their way to dig stuff up despite the author taking measures to hide it, I'm with the author on that.

My argument was that if you genuinely make controversial fanworks, you should make damn sure to keep it under a sock - or yes, orphan it. This is an appropriate way to act, not something that big bad antis are wrong to force you to do. That is all.

[(Anonymous)]

There's a third way:

Yes, I wrote this, and I'm proud of it and I stand by it. Not everyone can do this of course for obvious employment- and death-threat related reasons, but I think the people who are in a position to, should just...refuse to be shamed. The more people who stand up for themselves, the better off we'll be.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure you can do that. But if you do any of the following - have a pixiv account, where you post realistic 3d porn of children. Or engage in erotic fandom roleplay with kids. Or made a smutty art of a recently-deceased streamer getting raped by the grim reaper and posted it in a thread made to commemorate his death. Or repeatedly posted art of some twitter artist's OC having sex with their parent and tagging the artist on it - and nobody wants to have anything to do with you afterwards, you really have only yourself to blame.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know why you're jumping to the extremes. The OP themselves said that they were talking about not only explicit fic, but fics with the "wrong" ships which could mean anything in this fandom environment.

[(Anonymous)]

Because I keep seeing extremes almost every day, especially after becoming a mod in several large teen-heavy communities across several websites. It's my job to filter out sketchy things before most people have a chance to notice them, and the sheer amount of it has made me realize how many weird fucks there are in the world with no notion of where the line is between appropriate behavior and massive creepiness. So forgive me for assuming that a person bemoaning the fact that they will have to orphan "problematic" pairings isn't talking about Reylo.

[(Anonymous)]

That sounds like a "you" problem, not a "wow everyone else is so WHINY" problem.

Like, I don't doubt that you see those things in your mod role, but that isn't an average fucking experience for most people.

[(Anonymous)]

That sounds like a you-and-the-fandoms-you're-in problem, not anything anyone who doesn't hang out in those very specific fandoms needs to worry about.

Personally, I can't imagine having to spend that much time around teenagers. I didn't like teenagers even when I was one! But this is NOT some universal issue everywhere. Creeps attracted to teenagers are drawn to fandoms with lots of teens, especially RPF ones and fandoms where lots of teens are showing their faces on video all over the place, no shit sherlock. Of course you're going to see more of them there than in fandom at large.

Which means you get a tunnel vision that makes you think this is a huge issue everywhere and that everyone who talks about dark explicit fic is always talking about...realistic 3d renderings of child porn? I've been in fandom for 20 years and I have literally NEVER seen this.

[(Anonymous)]

And the OP of the secret was talking about doing just that and afraid of it STILL being dug up. You seem to be stuck on the idea of someone including their smut penname in their middle-grade book's author bio.

[(Anonymous)]

I re-read the secret and no, they said nothing about being worried their works would be dug up after being orphaned. The secret is only about how much it sucks that they have to orphan those fics in the first place.

> You seem to be stuck on the idea of someone including their smut penname in their middle-grade book's author bio.

You'd be surprised how many times I've seen it happen. I've seen smut posted in general art/fanfiction channels on discord servers for kids, and the author was fighting to the death over their right to post it there. I've seen people post untagged smut on tumblr under children's fiction tags and explaining that no, they can't tag it, because then tumblr anti-nsfw filters will filter it out. Some people just have no notion of privacy and separation of their main fandom activity from their NSFW activity.

[(Anonymous)]

And some people can't accept that fandom has always contained a level of NSFW content and if you want it to be separated that's on you

[(Anonymous)]

And some people remember the times when "fandom" was divided into separate communities, which rarely interacted with each other. And you had to lie about your age to get inside a community that hosted NSFW content.

[(Anonymous)]

Aka clicking a button that's says yes. Very fun.

[(Anonymous)]

Which you can still do on AO3 to this day!

(I don't see it often because I've set it to not show when I'm logged in, but sometimes I like it for the nostalgia value. :D)