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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-11-24 04:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #5437 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5437 ⌋

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Re: LOTR fans

[personal profile] philstar22 2021-11-25 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Not that kind of magic, it probably can't move itself (although it is possible it did move itself away from where Gollum had it for Bilbo to find). But Sauron can sense it at all times. throwing it into the ocean wouldn't help, Sauron would just send servants to retrieve it. It is literally made of Sauron as Sauron put himself into the Ring creation.

And the Ring also has a will of its own. It is unclear if it is fully sapient, but it can interact with the world in the sense of influencing people who aren't even touching it. Smeagol (who became Gollum), was tempted by the Ring when his friend had it and so killed his friend and took the Ring. The closer someone is to it, the easier it is for the Ring to influence them. Plus anyone who has a ring of power can be influenced by it as it is the controlling Ring. So the nine Nazgul will obey the Ring's will as much as Sauron's (really their wills are one and the same).

The holders of the Three aren't quite as fully influenced since Sauron didn't help make the Three, but the One Ring still has something of an effect on them, which is why the holders only put their rings on after the One Ring was separated from Sauron.

The reasons Bilbo was able to keep it for a long time and only slowly be influenced are 1. he's a hobbit, 2. he didn't steal the Ring directly from Gollum, and 3. The Ring didn't need him to do anything for it until it sensed Sauron was gaining power, so it didn't need to work as strongly on him.
Edited 2021-11-25 01:48 (UTC)

Re: LOTR fans

(Anonymous) 2021-11-25 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
The holders of the Three aren't quite as fully influenced since Sauron didn't help make the Three, but the One Ring still has something of an effect on them, which is why the holders only put their rings on after the One Ring was separated from Sauron.

It's also why Gandalf and Galadriel seemed especially terrified by even the possibility of taking it: They're currently the keepers of two of the Elven Rings. (Elrond is the other and he seemed more sanguine about it). Even though Sauron did not make the Three, some of their power was still tied to the One, which is why the Elven realms - which had been partly maintained by Ring power - are fated to fade after the One was destroyed.
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Re: LOTR fans

[personal profile] philstar22 2021-11-25 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yup. A good analogy is that while the Nine and the Seven were partially made by Sauron while the Three weren't, the Three were still made using the template Sauron gave the elves.

With the fading of the elven realms, that was meant to happen and would have happened earlier without the rings. Sauron actually convinced the elves (Celebrimbor and the other elves in Eregion) to help him with the rings because they were afraid of the fading and wanted to avoid it. So from the point of view of the elves, the purpose of the rings was to keep the elves from fading. It is just that it was Sauron who helped them, and he had major ulterior motives and plans of his own.