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fandomsecrets2009-03-08 05:15 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2009-03-08 05:15 pm
[ SECRET POST #793 ]
⌈ Secret Post #793 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 15 pages, 371 secrets from Secret Submission Post #114.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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I think, as someone who's been on both sides of the industry/fandom divide, that Mike and Bryan's sin here was mostly one of miscalculation. They're not particularly sophisticated in their understanding of fandom (most of these industry guys aren't) I think they legitimately DID NOT anticipate the impact their joke video would have. Probably they thought the Zuko/Katara folks would be happy to be acknowledged and to have their friends' fanart animated and to be at the center of so much official attention, even if in the form of a parody.
Now, I'm not saying I think they went about it in the smartest possible way -- I certainly would have advised against it if I'd been in a position to do so -- but I don't think that their INTENT was as mean-spirited as it's often been taken to be.
THAT SAID! I understand that intent only counts for so much and that this kind of thing can really suck -- I wasn't thrilled about the infamous "delusional" comment from JKR a few years ago. I just...I don't know. Avatar's a great show and the staff is full of awesome people who worked really really hard over many years to put it together. Having met some of them (though, as I said, not Mike and Bryan) I try to give them the benefit of the doubt, and assume that anything hurtful was done out of ignorance, not malice.
PS: Selfishly? I would really have loved it if they'd made fun of MORE ships. Like mine! Official Jet/Zuko-mocking voiced by Avatar staff? SIGN ME UP man, I am not even kidding. Not to belittle your own situation, I'm just looking at all of this from the perspective from a much smaller ship that NEVER gets this kind of attention, good or bad.
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It probably is a case of misunderstanding. I just, it still bugs the hell out of me with this whole thing. What kind of fan would want attention to them by being told that they're crap for shipping a certain pairing? Had that line not been in there, I'd be laughing with everyone else. After that, I cannot even listen to their commentary on the DVDs anymore.
Yeah, intent is a hazy area. I remember a conversation on racebending not too long ago about intent and it got really insane (and kinda made my inbox go BOOM with comment notifications XD). It's just as bad in the joke short situation. It still hurt no matter the intent and I really want Bryke to understand this somehow.
And I'd have loved some other ships being made fun of too. It wasn't right for Zutara to get the brunt of the flames when it already gets that from the fandom at large. I can has Sokkla love? :D And, is it me, or is Taang completely ignored by Bryke? *pout*