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⌈ Secret Post #5450 ⌋

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[fscom]

03. https://i.imgur.com/NdpJl3i.png

[(Anonymous)]

Hmm...yeah, I guess it's possible to have "dark bags", but generally IRL people have bags that are the same colour as the rest of their skin. Generally highlighted, since they're elevated and more likely to catch the light.

OTOH, I'm not in any cartoon fandoms, so I'm not sure how they might be drawn.

[meadowphoenix]

...I actually don't think "bags" actually always means "puffy." Most of time I've seen it (in lit, not fandom), it's meant to be saggy/wrinkly under eyes, as in baggy, not puffy skin. Which in cartoons comes out looking the exact same as dark circles with some wrinkly lines. Puffy is what i see used when it's mean to be inflamed. And the distinction is tired-sick (baggy) v. infected-sick (puffy).

[(Anonymous)]

Under-eye bags, by their nature, involve some amount of puffiness, caused predominantly by the under-eye's fluid bag retaining water, or its fat bag sagging over time, or both. The shape of the eye socket and the way the eye sits in the socket also contributes to how pronounced under-eye bags become.

The one variable here is how you define "puffy." Eye bags are puffy in the sense that there is a degree of volume to them that is absent from the area directly beneath them, thus creating a shadow underneath the bag and giving it that droopy look. However, if you personally refuse to use the word "puffy" to describe anything short of a hardcore allergy attack, then no, most people's under-eye bags aren't that puffy.

[meadowphoenix]

Under-eye bags, by their nature...
The reality of under eye bags on actual humans are irrelevant here, but I should have clarified regardless. In animation, I think the 2-d nature of the art means that you can evoke bags without evoking puffiness to everyone who sees it. OP is presumably saying that without "puff" for however that is defined artistically, there is no bag, and I think the little wrinkly-lines used to evoke bags, don't always give the idea of a volume increase, and that the words when used in description mean something different too.

Eye bags are puffy in the sense that there is a degree of volume to them that is absent from the area directly beneath them, thus creating a shadow underneath the bag and giving it that droopy look.
I don't think eyes bags are always drawn this way.

However, if you personally refuse to use the word "puffy" to describe anything short of a hardcore allergy attack, then no, most people's under-eye bags aren't that puffy.
...Most animated people? Maybe OP should give some examples.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, definitely should have given examples.


For me -- bags
See Bruce Wayne in Batman Beyond. There's a "bag" or fluids, as anon above you pointed out under his eye. It's usually drawn as a "U" under the eyes. And yeah, it could be argued that's just enhancing or highlighting the shape of the eyeball itself, but it's certainly not as prominent on Terry.
https://brobible.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/batman-beyond.jpg

https://chud.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/batmanbeyond00005.jpg

When I think dark circles, I think Shinsou Hitoshi from My Hero Academia.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6e/04/ac/6e04ac3dae6c70a643d7131450263cfd.png
https://wallpapercave.com/wp/wp4734659.jpg

Aizawa lands somewhere in between depending on if he's tired tired or not.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/81/6b/60/816b600bf847c7e0842d5a629a4ca3c8.jpg

I mean it mostly bothers me because I have (genetically?) Dark circles under my eyes and I can tell when they're "bags" (if I haven't slept for days!) vs when it's just the normal dark circles (genetics and poor sleep as well, actually even when I rest I still look tired lol). Anyway, it's more of a projection of myself on those characters in terms of what I have worked hard to find personally attractive in myself (dark circles) vs not (bags), so the issue is when people conflate the two, shattering my illusions lol

Re: OP

[meadowphoenix]

Yeah, this is exactly what I mean then. I agree that Bruce has straight up bags, and frankly not even particularly dark ones. But Hitoshi has what I would call dark bags, because I think of the little wrinkles are saggy skin. I would say that Aizawa's artist is making a distinction tho, since there's the wrinkles, but also the sinking fat bag the previous commenter was talking about.

Buuuuuuttt, I think I'm coming at this from the opposite of you. My eyes tend toward the skin underneath getting kinda thin and wrinkly/saggy when I'm tired (rather than an obvious fluid or liquid bag, though I have had those too), and people have definitely said I had bags, especially since I don't get dark circles.

Not OP...

[(Anonymous)]

...a good example would be Professor Sumdac from Transformers: Animated. He is a very insomniac man who has bags and circles under his eyes.

Re: Not OP...

[(Anonymous)]

OP

Great example of both!

Thanks secret maker!

[(Anonymous)]

I never thought of considering myself racoon like, but now I will! Very cute :) thank you!