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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-12-20 06:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #5463 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5463 ⌋

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Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2021-12-21 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Fandom: Black Widow, Hawkeye

It's only been a few weeks, and I'm already sick of the "Yelena is aro/ace!!" discourse. There's no evidence either way in canon, and even if there were, other fans are not doing anything wrong by shipping her the way they want to. They aren't taking anything away from anyone. I find it even more obnoxious (and telling) that this argument is mostly being deployed against F/F ships containing Yelena.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2021-12-21 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
So, I have a general question about when people get into the whole discourse on this subject. (Really, any "oh they're only straight, or they're gay, or they're ace", or what have you).

Are people making this argument about the actual canon? Or...because to me, even if there's an argument about the canon, in fandom, the character can be and do whatever you want them to. If you want to read into the relationships they have (platonic or otherwise) or read into their actions to justify your fanwork interpretation, then that's fine. But to argue X must be canon -- see how, I mean, to what end? Especially if they're in fandom, because it's literally (for me at least) been the place where you don't have to STRICTLY abide by canon.

You want Dean and Cas together? Go for it! It will have no bearing on my own fan work of portraying Dean as strictly het. I'll admit that personally I think he's a little bi inside (just a wee bit), but mostly straight. And that will have no bearing on the actual canon nor how a Dean/Cas shipper will go about their own fan works. The same applies for Kahlen/Cara on Legend of the Seeker (which I do ship).

I get why people get worked up if it had to do with representation, but aside from that, it's fandom. Where. You. Can. Do. Whatever. There's a married couple? Not anymore! They never met! Or they divorced! Or whatever! You're free to make AUs. I just don't know why people want to fight. :/

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2021-12-21 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, they are, using one panel of evidence from the comics which is also very ambiguous. Mostly to try and sink a same-sex ship that they don't like.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2021-12-22 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT, but I've seen this sort of thing happen in other fandoms. And also I'm old.
This is all just a new take on "My OTP is true and pure, and yours is Wrong," except with a healthy dose of "And if you disagree with me, you're a --phobe" thrown in for spice. Kind of makes one long for simpler times, when Harmonians and Zutarans roamed the earth.