[ SECRET POST #5472 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5472 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I disagree with this secret, but it does tie into one of the things I REALLY like about the RTD era of DW.

One of the things that RTD was really good at, imo, was having characters be messy and then just letting the audience sit with that messiness. My go-to example is the climax of The End of the World. It's the second episode of the show, you have everything set up for the villain of the week being hoisted by her own petard, and then Rose practically begs the Doctor to save the villain and 9 is super cold about it. And then... not much. It's an off-putting scene that doesn't get lampshaded or followed up on in that episode, and it's meant to be that way. It's meant to be a very clear indication to the audience that the Doctor in this semi-revived version of DW isn't to be 100% trusted, he's not a paragon of morality, and after that you're always going to be a bit on edge. It makes later moral dilemmas the Doctor gets into have more weight, and every time he succeeds it's much more of a victory because it wasn't a foregone conclusion.

IMO this continues very well throughout the rest of the RTD era. The Harriet Jones thing is a GREAT example of this, actually. You have this person who has previously been shown as a genuinely decent person and a great ally. The Doctor beats the baddie, they're retreating, and then - boom. Harriet Jones explodes a retreating spaceship. And she has good reasons for it - reasons that even people who disagree with her decision can agree are valid concerns. And then the Doctor destroys her political standing - and he has valid reasons as well. The audience has to sit in that discomfort, and the show doesn't really conclusively say which side you're supposed to see as The Right One.

And afterwards, though the exact actions are never really discussed between the characters, we do get to see how the Doctor's decision affected everything. If Harriet Jones had still been in office, would the Master have been able to become PM? Would the s3 finale have been half as horrifying? When Harriet Jones turns up in Journey's End, is her ending an indication that she agrees with the Doctor's actions, that she still disagrees yet forgives him, or something else entirely? There's a real sense of moral debate and ambiguity and allowing the audience to engage with it rather than giving clear answers in a lot of RTD's run, and it's one of the things I actually really like about it.

[(Anonymous)]

Allllllll of this done way more eloquently than I could have ever done.

[killnotic]

Well said.

[(Anonymous)]

"One of the things that RTD was really good at, imo, was having characters be messy and then just letting the audience sit with that messiness."

"There's a real sense of moral debate and ambiguity and allowing the audience to engage with it rather than giving clear answers in a lot of RTD's run, and it's one of the things I actually really like about it."

You said it so much better than I could.