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⌈ Secret Post #5476 ⌋

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Re: Any examples?

[(Anonymous)]

Dumbledore?

AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks! I’m not an HP person and that totally slipped my mind.

Re: Any examples?

[(Anonymous)]

There are also examples from "woke" canons that are celebrated by the same people who hate the Dumbledore thing. Korra and Asami are examples in my opinion. Say what you will about some people seeing it in the show. People see lots of non-canon things in other shows. Bryke did need to confirm themselves that it was canon, and I for one didn't think the ending meant anything as I watched it before they said something.

The She-Ra reboot has several canon queer characters, but there are others that were only confirmed by Word of God, like Perfuma being trans and Scorpia's girlfriend by the end.

Another version is the character being canonically queer, but what flavor of queer is only stated by WoG. It's crystal clear in canon Amity from The Owl House likes girls, but it's only thanks to Dana Terrace's word on twitter that every fan-edited picture of her has the lesbian flag incorporated somewhere and the fandom will eat you alive if you write her as bi or pan.

SA

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, not twitter, I believe it was an interview where Dana Terrace said Amity is a lesbian. The same point stands, though.

(I think she even worded it as "I envision Amity as a lesbian," so it might be an unofficial creator headcanon and she wouldn't care if someone wanted to see her as bi. But that doesn't matter because fandom of course takes it as canon).

Re: Any examples?

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, I wouldn't count most of what you stated as examples.

Korra/Asami was censored heavily. You've got to remember that the whole schedule was messed up and they were shoved to online. They genuinely did what they could. Eventually there was a whole comics series about them. SOmebody trying to have it both ways by claiming a character is gay then never showing it =/= heavily censored and they only got to hint at an ending.

The "Perfuma is trans" actually doesn't count because what happened was the artist drew her intended to be a pre-op trans girl and forgot to tell anyone. It's more one artists headcanon than anything else. Same with Scorpia/Perfuma, that's more creator's headcanons.

Re: Any examples?

[(Anonymous)]

Korra and Asami are explicitly a couple in the comic continuation, though. Does that not count as a part of the canon just because a lot of people only watched the cartoon?

This is the problem with drawing a hard line between "canon" and "not canon" for me. Many canons only consist of one clearly delineated thing like a book or a movie, sure, but a lot of the really popular ones are sprawled across multiple different mediums, with a bunch of retcons along the way. Take something like Star Wars for example. The movies are the main canon, but there are also cartoons, comics, spinoff movies, TV specials, books, video games, what have you. As I understand, a lot of the material has also been struck out of canon by word of god, but was canonical at the time of publication. Which of these count as actual canon? If it's just the movies, can I then say Boba Fett didn't canonically survive the sarlacc pit?

Re: Any examples?

[(Anonymous)]

OP here - I had the MCU on my mind so Yelena, Valkarie, and Ayo are at the forefront. These characters understood to be ace/bi/gay in the comics but aren't given any Blockbuster attention on that front.

Dumbledore is a weird case because JKR got a lot of attention for it at the time so I would assume everyone knew it, but now they've walked it back real hard in Fantastic Beasts so I wouldn't blame new fans for not knowing, especially if they're making a point of ignoring JKR's twitter.

Others mentioned here, but any time there's a book series with a character that's some race/religion/gender identity/sexuality that isn't explicit in the adaptation I'm annoyed about it and I'm annoyed when fans harras each other for not being up on the source material.