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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-01-09 03:38 pm

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(Anonymous) 2022-01-09 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
As someone who does have a few runes tattooed, I'd love to say most people are smart enough to do the research before committing to putting a symbol on their body, but I don't think that's true. I'm sure there are folks who got a tattoo of the algiz/yr rune without realizing the nazi connotations.

I'm unsure of cultural context as well concerning algiz - there are symbols that nazis took that are still in usage in other cultures today, in their original meaning (think the swastika - my Indian grandfather had it in his house, for example).

(Anonymous) 2022-01-09 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Neo Nazis have stolen Celtic ring imagery too, now. They know their symbols are utter poison, that is why they keep picking up new ones and discarding the old ones as soon as the general public start recognising them.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-09 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT
Yup, exactly! Norse and Celtic symbols and imagery are mainstay steals in nazi/white supremacist groups.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-09 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
The theft of the Celtic imagery really burns. Celtic culture is still a living thing in the Celtic fringe of Europe (Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Cornwall, and Brittany), they are stealing from a living culture and hurting those that live in it with their theft. They are making it harder for Celtic culture to keep its historical and shared cultural identity, which is already under sustained assault by the English and French national supremacists in this age of Johnson and Le Pen.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-10 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
French is Gallic, but English celts existed too you know. That imagery pervades the whole of the British Isles, and is meaningful as images tied deeply into our history for all British nations.

Fuck the Right for poisoning it.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-10 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
There is a lot of Celtic in the Brittany region of France. England really isn't Celtic though, and the English government has put a lot of energy into squelching out the Celtic identities of the other UK (and previously Ireland) home nations. That is why it is important to people in those home nations. Never forget, England is an oppressor at home as well as abroad.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-09 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
there's no grand cultural context to it, some austrian dude made up the meaning in 1900

(Anonymous) 2022-01-09 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT
That's what I was thinking! Of course it's part of both of the Elder and Younger Furthark, but I couldn't think of any instance where they are used outside of "cool rune" these days (besides the nazi stuff).

(Anonymous) 2022-01-10 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
Pagans in Scandinavia.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-10 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
The runes are literally an alphabet, though. People like to spread meanings like "Raido means travel!" but they're letters and the norse who used futhark alphabets considered them alphabets.

I'm a Norse heathen and I think assigning meanings to runes like people read tarot is harmless, ultimately, but they're...letters.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-10 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
I'd love to say most people are smart enough to do the research before committing to putting a symbol on their body, but I don't think that's true.

As someone who speaks Japanese and can read Japanese/Chinese characters, I can assure you that is absolutely not true.