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⌈ Secret Post #5484 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Teeny Rant

[(Anonymous)]

I am so glad I live in a country that doesn't bill me for water use. I literally could turn on a tap and have it running constantly if I wanted. No individual bills, and no water shortages either. I don't leave it running constantly, obviously, but I could if I wanted.

Re: Teeny Rant

[tabaqui]

It does seem counterintuitive. Here, you get billed for water, sewage use, trash pickup, electricity, of course, and, if you want to put in solar panels they're most likely charge you to use the grid, and if you collect rainwater, they'll take you to court.

We're pretty fuckin' stupid over here.

Re: Teeny Rant

[(Anonymous)]

If you collect rain water you get taken to court....

I have no words. That's nuts. Apart from anything else common sensical, what do you water the garden with??? Plants do so much better with rain water than tap water.

Re: Teeny Rant

[tabaqui]

Man, who knows!! Some towns and counties have got up in arms and enacted all sorts of rules about it, fucked with people about it...just nuts. That and the 'you can't have a garden in your front yard, it's unsightly, it must be flat grass!!' crowd. ARGH.

Re: Teeny Rant

[chamonix]

if you collect rainwater, they'll take you to court.

...excuse me??? This can't be real. Like, not that I disbelieve you, but just... whu??

Rainwater

[(Anonymous)]

It used to be true, especially in Oregon and Colorado for some reason, that personal rainwater collection was flat out illegal in some states. That is no longer the case though, harvesting rainwater is legal in all US states now, buuuuuuut, some states do heavily regulate to the point it is not as simple as just setting up a bucket at the end of the guttering.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/states-where-it-is-illegal-to-collect-rainwater

Yay, America.

Re: Rainwater

[chamonix]

That's absolutely demented. Like, what possible reason could they give for it? That isn't "we don't want you to have stuff for free so we can charge you for our version"? It's one shade off making you pay for oxygen. I'm absolutely knocked flat by this.

Thanks for the info - learn something every day!

Re: Rainwater

[(Anonymous)]

Like a lot of stuff in American history, especially Western American history, it all goes back to the frontier days and how one of the things the cattle barons and the homesteading settlers used to do was sabotage each other's water supplies. In some places if you dammed a single stream, or harvested all the flash flood causing rainwater, then there was nothing left for people down stream. It was a mess, and laws were implemented to stop rival factions literally causing each other to flee or die of thirst. And like most of American laws, they stuck around long after they ceased to be relevant, and got applied in places it was never relevant. West of the mountain Oregon was never gonna be stuck for water like Eastern Oregon, but since it was all Oregon...

Water rights laws are still fucking up California even today.

Re: Teeny Rant

[tabaqui]

A bunch of smaller towns, counties, etc., have enacted all kinds of rules about rainwater collection (and taken some people to court), and also a bunch of towns have gotten into this fucking bug about fining/suing people who turn their yards into gardens, because it's 'unsightly' or whatever.

It's like we can't keep ourselves from being petty assholes.

Re: Teeny Rant

[(Anonymous)]

Some US apartments have free utilities with the rent, too.

I don't, but my water bill is so reasonable I could leave the water running all day and it would cost less than a cup of Starbucks.