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[ SECRET POST #5490 ]

⌈ Secret Post #5490 ⌋

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I hope they change both hosts in the next season, I'm so tired of their unfunny jokes. The whole absurd surrealist humour might work for Noel's TV show, whatever it was called, but when he prances around the tent asking participants to kiss a wooden spoon or whatever, he really gets on my nerves. And Matt is just plain not funny, does he even have any other jokes except: "Look at me, I'm bald, gay and fat!" It's literally the worst when he tries to imitate some foreign accent, cringe.

I see he hasn't put his past as a yellowface and brownface comedian behind him then.

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I don't think "imitating foreign accents" is intrinsically the same as "yellowface and brownface".

Same principle, making fun of funny foreigners. Someone who is the subject of mockery due to the accent and heritage might not feel as charitable as you. I say that as someone who, when I lived in England, was subject to that daily mockery.

Even if it's the same principle, I do think that blackface and yellowface are worse. But also, FWIW, Mel and Sue also used funny foreign accents.

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I do despise Matt Lucas. He normalised some pretty darn ableist jokes and ways of thinking which went onto inform the horrific anti-disabled policies of the current government. I suppose at least he has shown a degree of contrition, unlike his partner in crime in that one, but I still can't watch any show he is in without thinking of all the lives ruined by the ideas he popularised.

Also, all those cakes tend to look far too over-iced. Gives you diabetes just looking at half of them.

While I agree Little Britain was an awful show, I think this may be assigning it a little more influence than is really justified.

I feel like you are assigning it too little. I have trans friends who still get that show's catchphrase hurled at them. One of them was assaulted by drunken bastards chanting it at her.

I agree that it was awful. My question is more about how much influence it really had on government policy. Apart from anything else, the Tories seem highly capable of being shits without any influence from a comedy sketch show.

They are cowardly little shits. If there is too much public opposition, then they pull back real quick on their horrors, but if a group is vulnerable and alienated, they quickly use that group as their little scapegoat. LB made it socially acceptable to hate on trans and disabled people, the latter far more than ever before, and lo and behold, the Tories little group of bullies decided that they were safe in using the disabled and trans people as their new targets in their little cultural crusade. Would they have been so fearless and brazen in their attacks without it? We'll never know, but we do know that the language and the sketches used in the show were also used by the Tories in their jokey-blokey justifications of those policies. There is a direct line from LB to the harm still being enacted on the disabled and trans people by government right now.

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I like that you start by complaining about Matt Lucas's ableist jokes and finish with an ableist joke about diabetes.

The irony, right?

It's almost like lack of awareness leads to these things. Ironic really, considering what they're complaining about.

I don't love the vibe at the moment. It feels like Noel is sort of tired of doing it, and Paul + Matt + Noel is a lot more sort of abrasive spiky-ness than the show needs.

I can't imagine Mel would be willing to come back but there has to be someone in the UK who's able to do a better job and it feels like a lot of the decisions being made are more about getting Big Names than about actually considering the dynamics of the show and what's actually necessary for the role. But unfortunately, it's really obvious that the overall quality of production has declined massively, so it seems unlikely that they'll start making better decisions about casting either.

I like both separately, but they definitely aren't a fit for Bake Off for me. I miss Mel and Sue, dammit.

Yeah Matt's awkward humor has no place on the show, especially when the bakers are stressing or being busy and he's just there bringing nothing but humorless disruption during the contest.

I feel like GBBO could use some new blood, but I’m also not sure what makes for a good host.

The chaos demon in me wants James Acaster. Or Jamali Maddix.

But maybe someone friendly and cheerful? Like Maisie Adam, Lolly Adafope, or Guz Khan?

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The two kids from the BBC's Worzel Gummidge reboot. Get them to do it. Those are a charming pair of kids.

I would love to see Hugh and Stephen do it but I think that's about as likely as me flapping my arms and flying to the moon.

Not James Acaster.

The problem is, both Mel and Sue had very maternal vibes which worked perfectly when the tension was high and bakers needed comfort. I cannot think of anybody with a similar vibe.

I feel like there have to be people who are capable of doing it and carrying across that vibe. It might require getting people who aren't already well-established popular regulars on the panel show circuit, though.

That seems unlikely to happen unfortunately. Plus to an extent you need old show business pros in that role to keep the balance right.

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Thank you, secret maker!!!

Maggie doesn't look like Prue to me, any further than both are older white ladies... They beat that dead horse to a pulp. Not funny, not fun. Move on.

Agree, Noel seems tired of it. Writers don't seem to know what to do with either host, the sketches are painful, for everyone, by the looks of it.

But the show overall is still fun enough and I'll keep watching for now.

The interactions and stuff that goes on while the competition is underway isn't so bad, but the sketches at the beginning of the shower are painful to watch. I feel embarrassed for everyone involved, especially whoever wrote that garbage. And yeah, I miss Mel and Sue.

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