[ SECRET POST #5490 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5490 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I do despise Matt Lucas. He normalised some pretty darn ableist jokes and ways of thinking which went onto inform the horrific anti-disabled policies of the current government. I suppose at least he has shown a degree of contrition, unlike his partner in crime in that one, but I still can't watch any show he is in without thinking of all the lives ruined by the ideas he popularised.

Also, all those cakes tend to look far too over-iced. Gives you diabetes just looking at half of them.

[(Anonymous)]

While I agree Little Britain was an awful show, I think this may be assigning it a little more influence than is really justified.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like you are assigning it too little. I have trans friends who still get that show's catchphrase hurled at them. One of them was assaulted by drunken bastards chanting it at her.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that it was awful. My question is more about how much influence it really had on government policy. Apart from anything else, the Tories seem highly capable of being shits without any influence from a comedy sketch show.

[(Anonymous)]

They are cowardly little shits. If there is too much public opposition, then they pull back real quick on their horrors, but if a group is vulnerable and alienated, they quickly use that group as their little scapegoat. LB made it socially acceptable to hate on trans and disabled people, the latter far more than ever before, and lo and behold, the Tories little group of bullies decided that they were safe in using the disabled and trans people as their new targets in their little cultural crusade. Would they have been so fearless and brazen in their attacks without it? We'll never know, but we do know that the language and the sketches used in the show were also used by the Tories in their jokey-blokey justifications of those policies. There is a direct line from LB to the harm still being enacted on the disabled and trans people by government right now.

[(Anonymous)]

If you say so. Can't see it myself.

AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

I think there is a broad stream of transphobia in British culture going back to before Little Britain, and many of the leading exponents of transphobia in British culture are not at all the target audience of the show - it's the intellegentsia and the elite media circles and academics pushing that line as much as or more so than anyone else. I suspect that the same is true of ableism. And I also am not sure I agree about how cowardly the Tories are - they, or at least the right-wingers in the party, are fairly brazen and open about being awful, it seems to me.

I agree that it is a reprehensible show, and also very bad. I think it's one part of a broad stream in British culture, society and politics, more so than a point of origin.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

They are pushing it because it is popular among the public, it is popular among the public in large part solely because of LB. Vulnerable people are hearing LB's catchphrases still hurled at them in daily life, and often from those in power. LB doesn't need to have created it, but they did popularised and disseminate it. They made it a safe bet for politicians. When a disabled person hears a crack about needing to rush back to the chair before they are spotted, or a transperson hears *that* line hurled at them, it is because of that show.

If you want to deny that, go ahead, but you will be in active denial and will be contributing to the very real and actual harm that show and its presenters enabled, and you will be wrong. Your opinion will be wrong. You've been told. Now you can choose whether to listen or not. From this point on you can choose whether to be right, or continue to be wrong. If you choose wrong, then that is your choice to continue to be so.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

No, it goes back way before LB. Way way before.

[(Anonymous)]

I like that you start by complaining about Matt Lucas's ableist jokes and finish with an ableist joke about diabetes.

[(Anonymous)]

The irony, right?

It's almost like lack of awareness leads to these things. Ironic really, considering what they're complaining about.