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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-01-19 05:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #5493 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5493 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-01-21 10:03 am (UTC)(link)
And just to add one more thing: You saying I was being “shady” in any way is especially ridiculous because the purpose of my original comment was to adding onto why OP might exercise while watching this show, by adding a personal anecdote, and relating to OP in that way. I used to exercise in front of the TV while watching my shows. I used to have a treadmill in front of it. What is remotely shady about anything I’ve said? You think you know so much more than me, then you can probably explain how on earth you jumped to that conclusion. But I personally haven’t a clue how you did.

How you can spin my comment into anything more than what it was is absurd. My comment that was both a response to your question and the secret, no matter the doubling down you’re doing that you think it wasn’t relevant. Which feels like borderline gaslighting for you to tell me what the purpose of my own comment was like you have any clue.

None of this had to happen, neither of us had to act this way. But even though it sounds childish to say, it’s still true that you did it first.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2022-01-21 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
The fact that you don’t want to give me the benefit of the doubt is not my problem.
No shit? that's to explain why I decided to go long form instead of pithy. It's information about my response. you can absolutely leave it.

Which is what it was, and your attempts to pretend you had a good reason for it is quaint.
again you don't have to like my reason and you can find it condescending, but it was given. That's what you responded to.

There is absolutely nothing to say about where I was coming from that I haven’t already.
I mean there obviously is or I wouldn't have said it. If I'm asking about the specific, that's what I wanna know, not the general like your answer. You can say why you think a question on specificity is answered by a question on generality. What about giving the general to a specific is useful to me? You've apparently decided answering that is beyond you, which is your right, but lmao.

I’ve explained it as exhaustively as I possibly could, and you still somehow don’t get it? I gave another reason for why OP might want to exercise while watching a show they liked. How can I break it down even further?
This was exhaustive to you? That's a pretty small well to me. Anyway I've been clear about my thought process, which is why I quoted the words and explained their meaning to me, so you know exactly what I'm responding to. You haven't been clear to me. And if you think you have, you can quote it. Hope that helps your exhausted imagination of possibilities.

Come on, you’re a thousand times smarter than this.
Do you understand why this is irrelevant? I could be a genius having a bad day. I just be only exceptionally well-read but critically bereft. I could be only accidentally or unknowingly insightful. I could have had a concussion. I could have an significantly different vocab from you. It doesn't matter. You have my words, and you can take them or leave them. That's up to you not my intelligence.

What about anything I said was “shady”? You’re extrapolating so much from absolutely nothing.
It's in my comment. But to wit, if you think it's strange to question about why someone does something, then your response may be in a tone of superiority, because you noted a deficiency, and assumed you needed to provide something you see as routine in response, which is shady (shady in this case mean without respect, I'm using slang). If I think something is strange, I just say, well that's strange and then ask where someone is coming from. I don't tend to give an answer that requires assumptions about knowledge when I've already noted something unexpected about a knowledge base. Or I make my assumptions plain and you can refute.

You have a reputation around here for never admitting when you’re wrong or are being assumptive
I never admit to being wrong when I don't think I'm wrong. I do admit to being wrong when I think I'm wrong. The rest of this is just your thoughts on me, it has nothing to do with me.

something you randomly decided not to give me based on a whim
Oh it's not whim. You just don't like my reasons or credit them. Once again, nothing to do with me.

And I’m not saying I will hold it against you, but I do see that your less than stellar reputation is well deserved. I know you don’t care at all what people think about you though, you make that clear. Which is fine, I guess.
So what? You know I don't care, so what's this for?

You know absolutely nothing about me or how my thought process works, and yet you’re acting like you do.
Quote me. Where is this act?

But I never claimed to know everything about you.
I didn't say everything either, and if you think i did you can quote me. And if you think I didn't, why make a statement so irrelevant? I said you don't really know anything about my tone or attitude. You have text, and you have assumptions and like maybe overlapping culture. That's it. Which means this is what you feel about my text.

Either way, do you know why you know even less about me than I know about you? Because I’m anon.
Yes, i know, that what I was implying that when I italicized nonny.

You’re pretending that you know anything about me, and being a judgmental prick about it, based on two comments that say very little about me. Maybe you should look into why you feel so comfortable making sweeping judgments and generalizations based on nothing substantial.
Nope. I'm not assuming anything about your person. If you I think am pretending to do so, quote me. I am gleaning meaning from your text, as text is meant to be a source of communication about meaning. I'm very comfortable doing that.

Who can say.
Who cares? You're anon. You can respond to me or not. You can choose your words. I can respond or not and choose mine. You say we've had nice and civil discussion before, but I can't know that and it's just as likely for me that you're someone who wanted to troll and has before or whatever. You've chosen that and you think what? I should give a damn you wanted a discussion where you didn't feel compelled into the way you're responding now? If not that what? You're Schrodinger's anon. We're not building a relationship, so who cares?

I’m glad the bs that resulted from your spontaneous lack of reading comprehension made you snort though. I’ve read your reply several times, and I’m honestly amused at the nonsense you wrote. And how you think the ~grand reasoning~ for why you decided to be a dick makes you look good at all. You can try to spin this however you want to make yourself feel better, but this interaction going in a negative direction is 100% all on you. If you didn’t feel my comment was relevant, all you had to do was ignore it. But you, in all your wisdom, decided to bestow upon me the first bitchy remark, and it’s verbose but equally bitchy and assumptive follow up. And that’s why we’re here now. Are you going to let this go, or try to spin doctor more?
I'm sorry, you wrote all this and think I should "let go"? Was this not intended for response? Spin? For who? You've already noted I don't care, and you've given no reason why I should feel any way let alone good. Do you really think that's the only possible reason I could respond? Interesting. I don't credit any of this you've said, but it's rhetorically interesting (well, in male fide, but also interesting. Very Cicero). Anyway, this is more assumptive feelings from you. I don't know why you're blaming me for your equally valid choice to respond when you could also ignore. That's not logically sound. But funny! We're a couple of jokesters to each other today!

adding onto why OP might exercise while watching this show
And it didn't do that, because the question wasn't about exercising to tv. It was about exercising to two shows only.

Which feels like borderline gaslighting for you to tell me what the purpose of my own comment was like you have any clue. None of this had to happen, neither of us had to act this way. But even though it sounds childish to say, it’s still true that you did it first.
Relevance? if there's a problem with the tenor, it's not on my side, so? I hope you figure out why you descended into what you see as childishness.
Edited 2022-01-21 19:08 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2022-01-21 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I like the cut of your jib! You have some incredibly clear responses in this thread, I don't see how other anon could misunderstand you in any other way than wilfully.

(Just wanted to say cause I'm genuinely impressed by your communication here)
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2022-01-22 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
This is very nice of you to say, thank you.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-22 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
I like the cut of their jib too, the majority of the time. I envy and respect the fact that they don’t care what other people think of them. Others say they don’t care, but they’re lying. I genuinely believe meadowphoenix when they say they don’t, no lies detected. That’s why I brought that part up with them, as an acknowledgment.

But the only misunderstanding was them misunderstanding me, and it’s just as willful on the end as you think it is on mine.

And concise and to the point doesn’t always mean correct, you know.