fandomsecrets | [ SECRET POST #803 ]

⌈ Secret Post #803 ⌋

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[Toby Beecher/Chris Keller - Oz]

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[Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei]

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[Life with Derek]

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[NieA Under Seven]

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[xxxHOLiC]

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[Mai Hime]

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[The World Ends With You]

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[Super Smash Brothers/Fire Emblem]

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[X-Men]

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[Merlin]

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[Buffy, Degrassi, South of Nowhere, Skins]

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[Patrick Bateman, American Psycho]

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[Gossip Girl, Chuck/Dan]

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[Sailor Moon]

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[kings of leon]

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[Garth Marenghi's Darkplace]

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[Naruto, Avatar, Girl Genius, Harry Potter]

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[iCarly]

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[Luminous Arc 1]

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[Douglas Adams]

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I can see why it would appear that they just want to get hit on - I assure you this is not an attempt to make a hypothesis about their motives, because some indeed admitted their motives to me in casual conversation, or eventually outed themselves one way or another to the group. I've been in a number of different yaoi fangroups, livejournal communities, whathaveyou - and for roughly two years was extremely active on a fairly popular yaoi art gallery. The number of people who *did* do it to try and get the most attention, the most page views, was staggering.

Crossdressing is, in fact, a totally separate thing; it is its own subculture in the GLBT community. There are drag queens and drag kings, casual cross-dressers, many of these things in the community. There are many reasons people do it - and very rarely will they be for the reasons I get offended by those online who do it for the attention they'd receive as a gay male in a fandom that is honestly dominated by mostly women.

The subjects are indeed apples and oranges, to me.

As to how this relates to my struggle, I have unfortunately had the "You're just trying to get people to like your art more by pretending to be a dude" label stuck on me more than once, because this is so commonplace in the fandom. I've fought a long, hard battle to get where I am - on hormone therapy and living as my chosen gender. To be compared to them, simply because it's what happens the most among yaoi folk? It's a slap in the face, to say the least.

(The subject of gender, gender roles, and other related topics is indeed a very broad and fascinating topic that I am always open to discussing. If you have any interest in further bantering with me, let me know and we can figure out a way to arrange a non-comment conversation.)

164) I'll take your word for it then, since I've never been in any yaoi/slash scene. What you're describing sounds more like they're trying to adopt some a type of male privilege (?). There are people (male and female) out there who think women aren't funny/can't write/etc and I know that even professional female writers have hid their gender before.

In that case I can see where it is belittling since I know I've read that ftms have also been accused of adopting male privilege by a few in some feminist circles (and lesbian circles, though then it's "heterosexual male privilege"- forgetting that there are gay/bi ftms, and that transsexuals are even more shit on by society, if anything.)

Honestly this has made me curious as to what mtfs think of all the guys pretending to be female on dating sites and video games and the like.

I would be happy to talk with you further, though really I don't know enough about gender roles to say much that is interesting--I'm more of a learner at this point in my life. :)

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