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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-01-23 04:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #5497 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5497 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-01-23 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
so daring and yet so very, very wrong.

no one actually won or lost the war, the Fire Nation ended up with someone in charge - Fire Lord Zuko - who chose to end it. No one was defeated except Ozai and well that's sort of an internal matter, isn't it? The Avatar may have won in single combat but that didn't end the war in anyone's favor. The Order of the White Lotus prevented the fall of Ba Sing Se but did that end the war? It did not. Zuko had to make a pact to end the war once he was in control. The war was much more than just Ozai and his kids vs the Avatar, it was neither won nor lost and no one incident or person was responsible for that.

had the story not gone balls-to-the-wall with Phoenix Lord Ozai needing to be taken down hard, you might have a point, but they crossed a point of no return, fairly requiring a standard good vs evil fight that ends with him being defeated. But that, I maintain, was not the end of the war. And the overarching war was something that the Fire Nation could not win, not without becoming obviously WWII and nobody wanted that much real world in their children's cartoon.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-24 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
But I mean... The war did end. It literally did. You can say it wouldn't have in real life or a more realistic story, but Avatar is neither of those. It can't be your "opinion" that something that happened in canon didn't really happen just because you don't think it would have happened that way had canon been realistic.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-24 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
They didn’t say the war didn’t end, they said it didn’t end the moment Ozai was defeated. Because it didn’t, and that is clearly shown in canon. And not just in the follow up comics, even though those are canon, because I know some people prefer to ignore them. The show itself established that Zuko ended the war after taking the throne, and calling off the rest of the Fire Nation attacks that were planned independent of Ozai’s direct attacks. This is what AYRT said happened, and you’re not correcting anything they actually said. You’re attempting to correct a bunch of things they didn’t say, that you seem to have pulled from nowhere. The war was more than just Ozai, and it didn’t cease to exist when he was debended.