[ SECRET POST #5497 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5497 ⌋

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Comments

[meadowphoenix]

What do you consider grimdark? I don't think I've ever thought that was the central mechanic, but it's very possible I'm using a more...movie inspired definition.

[feotakahari]

By contradiction: https://1d4chan.fandom.com/wiki/Noblebright

[meadowphoenix]

You're deriving grimdark's mechanic by its contradiction? Theseus ship by shadow, eh?

Anyway, I don't think it makes sense to suggest that grimdark's central mechanic can be defined by abstraction, especially in genre, wherein it's not necessarily the case that noblebright as applied rather than a writer actively playing with the trope is actually the mirror opposite of grimdark; there's a layer of interpretation there that simply can't be ignored. Like, people say that ASOIAF is grimdark, and the protagonists are actually capable of great change within the universe. I think the more popular use, wherein it's the difference between camp batman and ~realistic~ batman, wherein batman's ability to effect the universe does not change, but the philosophy of human nature does. Meanwhile, I don't think you would call BTVS grimdark, even though the slayer's purpose is never-fucking-ending. So I can't agree that that is the central mechanic, in that I don't think that's how it's being used.