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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-01-25 06:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #5499 ]


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(Anonymous) 2022-01-26 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
...I would understand this complaint if the situation was "just one more buff butch lesbian among the vast sea of canon buff butch lesbian characters."

But IME, what we have in mainstream canons is "canon lesbian characters are overwhelmingly conventionally-feminine, buff butch female characters are overwhelmingly either non-specified or presented as straight, and every single one of those gets congratulated for how imaginative and stereotype-breaking they are."

Not gonna say Disney was queer-coding any of the characters, but there's nothing wrong or offensive about viewers interpreting/headcanoning Luisa any way they want.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-26 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
This. And every time a lesbian character has a look that's popular with real lesbians to signal each other in the real lesbian community (like wears lots of flannel, has an undercut) everyone in the world EXCEPT lesbians complain that she's a stereotype. While real lesbians are going "No, that's literally just how we be."

(Anonymous) 2022-01-26 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
yeah i've had this conversation with my lesbian friends where they'd be like "why can't [butch character] be a lesbian she's really hot :///" and i'd be like but it's good that they're not stereotyping! and they'd very patiently explain that a lot of lesbians love butches and love being butch

as long as queer characters are not mainstream i don't think it's time to worry about how uniquely they express their queerness

(Anonymous) 2022-01-26 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, every time people act like this is some massive act of being 'forward thinking' I wonder where this massive glut of butch-lesbians in media is for people to think this is an actual problem to avoid. I love a lot of the wlw I've gotten onscreen over the years but none of them are butch and the ones who steer even vaguely(usually by accident) in that ball park are still very, very femme. There are next to no butch lesbians onscreen, but pls straight women keep telling me how 'progressive' it is to see an entire part of my community constantly erased and ignored because they don't appeal to men.