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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-01-26 05:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #5500 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5500 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-01-26 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I... I don't understand what this secret is trying to say. It reads like "I have (what I consider to be cool stuff) and I'm not going to share with you unworthy peons whose ideas I stole!"

But that can't be right, can it?

(Anonymous) 2022-01-26 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
To me it reads like "I read a prompt and don't want to credit the prompter because the prompter calls their prompt an 'imagine' in an effort to stake their flag in an idea that they won't write about themselves".

I kind of get it. From the admittedly teeny amount I've seen of 'imagines', they're just long prompts that are written instead of fic, usually with the goal of making sure that an idea is claimed as somehow uniquely *theirs*. Which comes across as entitled, like a little kid licking all the cupcakes at a party so nobody else can have one. So I don't blame OP for not sharing if they don't want to feed the mindset that the prompter/imaginer(?) did the hard work in having the idea, because they didn't.

But an idea isn't something you can really plagiarise in fanfic - a fic can be copied, sure, but if three people write a fic based on a single prompt, no matter how detailed the prompt was you'll still end up with three different fics. And often readers will gladly read all three!

Honestly, I'd probably just post it as anon and turn off comments.

Same anon!!

(Anonymous) 2022-01-26 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
*but I have mostly only encountered asshole prompter/imaginers, hence very little contact with them, so YMMV.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-27 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, if I have an idea about a Bob/Betty robot AU, and then, some time later, I see someone post an imagine or prompt for a Bob/Betty robot AU, and I then go on to write the Bob/Betty robot AU, I wouldn't credit the prompter. Because the Bob/Betty robot AU was my idea. It may not have been exclusively my idea, but it was independently my idea.

However if I haven't ever considered writing a Bob/Betty robot AU before seeing that prompt/imagine, and I decided to write and post that fic, I would definitely credit the prompter, no matter how brief or vague the prompt was, because the fic literally would not exist without them.

I really do not understand why some people are so averse to (and in OP's case, weirdly aggressive about) publicly admitting that their fic was inspired by someone else in the fandom. It's not like it needs an entire gushing paragraph thanking the prompter profusely for deigning to share their genius ideas with the rest of the fandom. One sentence is all it takes and I honestly think it's the gracious thing to do.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-27 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2022-01-27 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
+2

(Anonymous) 2022-01-27 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Don't get me wrong, I think anyone posting ideas ought to do it with the knowledge and acceptance that anyone can just use it as a prompt, with or without credit. But whether or not it's something sue-worthy (legally speaking), I don't think much of people who take an idea and pretend it was 100% their own, no matter how good the result.

Yeah, the person stamping their feet because they (or the ideas author... doesn't sound like it was the same person) weren't credited doesn't look good here, but OP refusing to post fic in defiance of someone who thinks they should acknowledge their inspiration isn't much better. I'd probably be more sympathetic if they weren't acting childishly themselves.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-27 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
It reads like "I have (what I consider to be cool stuff) and I'm not going to share with you unworthy peons whose ideas I stole!"

This is how it reads to me, too.

Well, okay, I wouldn't say it's stealing to use someone's fairly general imagine without crediting them. But OP seems exceedingly enraged over a situation in which they actively chose to overlook someone and the person they chose to actively overlook noticed and brought it up. IDK whether this imagine writer was in the right to make an issue of it. It seems like a minor enough thing that they probably should've just let it go. But OP's reaction, and OP's reasons for overlooking this person in the first place, are jaw-droppingly petty, hostile, and judgmental IMO.