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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-01-26 05:56 pm

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(Anonymous) 2022-01-26 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, as someone who's written both full fics and imagines, for me they scratch very different itches and have very different appeal to me as a writer?

Like, writing fic is hard. I love writing it, I love posting it, but it takes a while and sometimes I'll look at something I've already spent hours and hours on and end up not finishing/posting it. Sometimes I just won't have time to read a full fic - I'm a busy person.

Imagines, on the other hand, are basically what I tend to do anyways when plotting out a vague concept for a fic. I've written a TON of imagines where I was like "if I have the time and inspiration I'll do a full fic of this, but for now here's what I've got." Imagines are great because I can read one quickly while in line at the grocery store or on my break at work or whatever.

They're different forms and serve different purposes imo. Besides, imo oneshots and drabbles aren't some kind of lesser form of fanfic just because they have less words - there's a huge amount of skill involved in conveying a scene or mood in a very limited space. I know it's not a skillset I have - my shortest fic is like 35k, and I don't think I'll ever be able to write anything shorter, so I respect the hell out of anyone who can create these amazing fics in such a small amount of space.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-27 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I never understand saying short fic is some kind of skill. I have only written short things (my longest is <7k, except for some drawer fics) because I never get ideas that can sustain themselves for very long. It's a failing, not something I do on purpose. People always seem to like longer fics.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-27 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT Trust me, I ENVY writers who can write short fics. You get all the emotions and tension and, sometimes, even all the plot of a long fic, but in its most distilled and compact form.

I mean, check out this Doctor Who/Bojack Horseman crossover that's just gutpunch after gutpunch but also achingly hopeful (https://archiveofourown.org/works/21912310).

Or this Much Ado About Nothing fic that I personally consider a masterpiece (https://archiveofourown.org/works/19465297).

Or this Fleabag fic that's just,,, absolutely perfect, it's perfect, it works so well and is exactly what I think happened after s2 (https://archiveofourown.org/works/19041496)

And that's not even going INTO the number of absolute classics that also happen to be short stories, most of them under 10k. Asimov's "The Last Question", Le Guin's "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas", Stephen Leigh's "Encounter", Joyce's "The Dead" (seriously, read The Dubliners, that short story collection changed my life). And that's not even getting into authors whose BEST work is their short stuff: Flannery O'Connor, Phillip K. Dick, Ray Bradbury, Raymond Carver. Short stories are an ART, and fanfic short stories (drabbles, ficlets, oneshots, twoshots) can be just as great, if not more so, than longer fics.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-28 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT Well ok, it can be done with skill, if that's what you set out to do. (I wasn't even thinking of professional writing!) "All I've got is this one small image that can't be stretched any further" feels like not the same thing.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-28 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT Raymond Carver (one of my favs, I love his writing) does a lot with very compressed ideas and scenes and impressions. Take "Cathedral", his most anthologized work - if you look at the literal plot, it's just about a guy in an unhappy marriage who lets a homeless blind guy stay for the evening. The art is in the rest of it - all the thoughts and ideas and impressions this impulsive decision spark off, how the central character slowly changes from regretting his decision to having an almost religious experience, the power of art and architecture and, uh, weed apparently. It's masterfully done, and it's not too far off from something along the lines of "OTP fall asleep together after a long day" and other similarly sparse oneshots. It's about the feelings and emotions and impressions, and it can be done super well.