[ SECRET POST #5504 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5504 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

When I was teaching young kids (think kindergarten) overseas I had a Ginny in one class and a Jenny in the other and BOY HOWDY would Ginny tear me a new one every time I called her Jenny.

I could not hear the difference at all, but boy there sure must have been one. (I also don't usually hear a difference between pen/pin though I know other English speakers do).


Also "dress robes" to me read like "dress uniform" in the military-- a fancier version of the usual robes/uniform for special occasions.

[(Anonymous)]

Where did you grow up/what was the predominant accent where you grew up? To me, there is a very clear difference in how the first vowel is pronounced in each name.

[(Anonymous)]

this one: https://www.acelinguist.com/2020/01/the-pin-pen-merger.html

[(Anonymous)]

100% yes to the dress robe. It has nothing to do with a dress, it's a special fancy robe you wear to events (in Ron's case it was that brown corduroy(?) Monstrosity with orange ruffles, iirc).

OP

[(Anonymous)]

This does not explain to me what the girls were wearing during the Yule Ball though. I should have been more specific that the male dress robes weren't confusing.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

They were wearing dresses because pretty dresses look nice in movies. Personally I think dress robes in different styles would have been more interesting, but whatever.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, sadly, this. in book-only context they would have been "fancy" robes and everyone would have been wearing all robes only robes at all times. there was some suggestion that the kids when out of school wore muggle clothes, but their parents, hooboy, always in robes.

the movies ruined that entire concept. the only robes you see are school robes - during classes - and some of the super old wizards always wearing them or only wearing them inside a magical place like Hogwarts, Diagon Alley, etc. Never in their own homes. So the Yule Ball should have been a chance for the costume designer to go above and beyond and design fancy robes for both men and women but instead we got girls in prom dresses and boys in tuxedo-robes. except poor Ron.

so if you're confused, OP, that's why. if someone can write an HP fic and lovingly describe a women's dress robe, I would kudos them to hell and back for it.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Not in the book they weren't. Hence the confusion.

[(Anonymous)]

I hope you tore Ginny a new one back eventually by giving her a talk about respecting other people's origins and dialects.

[(Anonymous)]

Errr, no. Why should she have had to put up with being called what sounds like 'Jenny' when that wasn't her name? Or is it only 'foreign' names that are supposed to get the respect of being pronounced correctly?

[(Anonymous)]

She was six years old and I was teaching English, so no I didn't. I trained myself to have a clearer, less regional accent when I was speaking with students because that's what their parents were paying me for.