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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-01-30 04:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #5504 ]


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(Anonymous) 2022-01-30 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean...I feel like a lot of people both in more professional criticism and general fandom have noted and complained about her "Not like the other girls" tendencies? It's definitely a problem in many of her novels.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-30 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, idgi. The issue exists, that is true. But people never talking about it? People talk about it all the time.

It doesn't help that Austen basically wrote the same novel about Super Special Girl and Modest Best Friend vs Asshole Man like, 5 different times

(Anonymous) 2022-01-31 06:52 am (UTC)(link)
Your second paragraph is an impressively bad hot take, damn.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-31 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Just say you haven't read much Austen, damn. Even people who only watch adaptations of her novels probably don't think that.

(Anonymous) 2022-02-01 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of people think that actually. Those people happen to be wrong, of course.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-30 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
And in the case of Emma, she is absolutely like the other girls, only she considers herself vastly superior, and that's the problem.

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(Anonymous) 2022-01-30 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Most of things in fic I've read either reproduce her characters wholesale or try to bring the characters closer in line with what the novel thinks is good, as a character arc. Most criticism I've read is about gender in Austen in general rather than whether Austen is reasonable about her narrative voice. And adaptations never provide a shred of anything like comment on the original piece except to modernize. I'd love to see actual criticism though! Do you know of where I could find any?

I know there's a mary from p&p novel somewhere that's gay? I think. But I don't think writing a character with more nuance is the same as active criticism.