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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-02-11 04:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #5516 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5516 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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08. [SPOILERS for Book of Boba Fett or maybe Attack of the Clones]




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09. [SPOILERS for Space Brothers/Uchuu Kyoudai]




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10. [SPOILERS for Eternals Mid-Credits Scene]



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(Anonymous) 2022-02-12 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Oooooh, good lordy. I was on a golden age of sci-fi kick a while back, and while I do not regret the least the study I did on the foundations of contemporary science fiction, I also saw the more troubling views of all of them.

Heinlein being obsessed with polyamory and considering women as fit only for particular positions in his worse books, Larry Niven being alright with a 200-year old guy hooking up and having sex with a 20-year old naive woman, Dyson being a climate change denialist, Asimov himself being a serial harasser...

Mind you, I absolutely needed to read their works so I can write stuff of my own, and the study gave me a lot of ideas for stuff of my own. But I'm definitely grateful for the fact their uglier sides can be ignored in contemporary science fiction.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2022-02-12 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
And if you look at pre-Golden Age, it’s actually worse. Lovecraft was a standout in racism, but he was by no means unique.

(Anonymous) 2022-02-12 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
So was Edgar Rice Burroughs, as much as I love his work.

(Anonymous) 2022-02-12 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
That's definitely true, but it's interesting because I think there was a pretty specific group of SF writers and fans, the whole John Campbell, Astounding/Analog, hard space opera, engineer circle of writers, where the stuff you're talking about was much more talking about. That whole line of science fiction really just had a marked conservative libertarian right-wing political ethos down the line and it's reflected in their views of women (and often of minorities).