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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-02-12 03:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #5517 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5517 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-02-13 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
but ignoring her doesn't make what she did go away and doesn't make it easier for children who may be in similar situations to speak out.

What are you basing this part on? How on earth does it not “make it easier” for children who may be in similar situations to speak out when there’s precedent of abusive people being blacklisted after victims came forward? Like, I’ll grant the rest of your comment makes perfect sense. But this part is so weird, and doesn’t ring true at all. It honestly seems like you’re trying to prove a negative, like “it probably doesn’t make it harder for children to speak out if an abusive writer is blacklisted, but there’s no proof per se that it makes it easier either”. And that feels a bit like hair splitting as well.

Correct me if I’m way off on what you’re trying to say of course.

(Anonymous) 2022-02-13 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)
That's not what I'm trying to say. But blacklisting these days comes with a heavy side of "Artist was never any good anyway and clearly their work was always problematic" and "Good work can only be made by good people." And that does make it harder for people who come forward with allegations against popular creators. Hell, we see people on f!s twist themselves into knots to prove that various creators that mean something to couldn't have possibly done anything bad and if someone was hurt by their actions it's their own fault. And we're all anonymous and theoretically all adults here. There's no easy fix, but moving away from the "good people make good things, bad people make bad things, and once we find out someone is a bad person all of their previously good things are now bad" mentality helps a little.

(Anonymous) 2022-02-13 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, this. Michael Jackson comes to mind. People are still tying themselves into the Gordian Knot to insist that he wasn't creeping on kids.

(Anonymous) 2022-02-13 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
In that case, I apologize for the misunderstanding.