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⌈ Secret Post #5518 ⌋

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[dancingmouse]

I give absolutely no fucks about what radical vegans say or think. Not eating something that's all ready dead and meant to be eaten isn't going to bring it back to life, nor is it going to stop people from consuming meat entirely.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. And when you get right down to it, there are very, very few species of animals in the world that don't eat meat in some form. Even things like squirrels and rabbits and deer will eat meat if it's there. Most creatures are omnivorous to some degree.

[(Anonymous)]

I dunno that squirrels, rabbits, and deer will eat meat if there's plenty of their preferred diet around.

Iirc deer will eat bones and baby birds to rectify calcium deficiencies but not just randomly, and I assume most herbivores will do similarly, but would suffer and die on an all meat diet.

And cats are obligate carnivores but still nibble grass. It doesn't mean they won't die without meat.

[(Anonymous)]

Squirrels will eat anything. Squirrels will crawl out of a pile of nuts and berries to go eat half a hot dog that someone dropped on the ground. Squirrels should not be used as an example of any sort of behavior other than squirrels.

[(Anonymous)]

Right, but my point was that even animals that mainly eat plants can and will eat meat at times, so the idea that humans shouldn't eat meat or that it's unnatural for humans to eat meat is just patently false because there are very, very few species that do not and will not eat meat at all.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT--I've been a vegetarian for almost 30 years, and the idea that it's unnatural for humans to eat meat is ridiculous because we're omnivores, not because most species will eat meat if they can get it.

Most herbivores would suffer on an omnivorous diet, never mind a carnivorous one, but that doesn't apply to humans, who can basically eat anything that isn't deadly poisonous to humans in tiny doses (and some things that are, like pokeweed and fugu.)

Tbh most super restrictive diets bug me. I dgaf if someone's vegan, but once people start adding qualifiers like "raw organic no sugar etc etc" it moves from diet meaning "the kind of food someone eats" to diet like "unhealthy food restriction promoted by a multibillion-dollar diet industry."

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who enjoys vegetable-based meals occasionally, I agree.

Having a few reasonable guidelines for eating is wonderful. You get to share info about what you like to eat, and you can figure out what food you like sharing with others.

When your food rules exist because you have a bizarre need to control everybody else's eating... not so good. Take it down a notch before you're tempted to overthink everybody else's choices.

[(Anonymous)]

i am convinced a lot of "loud"/preachy vegans suffer from plain old eating disorders

[(Anonymous)]

This, and they also need to rant about something, anything just for the sake of ranting.

[(Anonymous)]

But humans are different from other animals in that we’re more capable of complex emotions like empathy, guilt, and compassion. Saying it’s only natural for humans to eat meat because other omnivorous animals can and do when they need to isn’t really a good argument. We’re not living in the same environment of survival and instinct as most other animals, and haven’t been for quite awhile. Our way of thinking and feeling is broader and different. There’s really no comparing us to other animals in this way.

I am vegan, but I don’t have a problem with others eating meat, because my vegan experience is admittedly based on my own emotions and lack of want to eat meat or animal products, and not out of activism. So I don’t think coming up with excuses is like “other animals do it” or any others is necessary. Eat meat if you want to because you can, or don’t because you don’t want to. There shouldn’t be any deeper reasons for wanting to eat meat, no matter what some radicals say.

[(Anonymous)]

Squirrels eat both bird eggs and baby birds if they can get to them any day.

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen a red squirrel eating roadkill. Possibly a rabbit.

[(Anonymous)]

This is the oldest and stupidest argument against veganism. (Most) vegans don't object to the act of eating animals, they object to the cruel way animals are raised and treated in order for us to eat them and their byproducts.

[(Anonymous)]

Since most vegans also are against people eating ethically raised and sourced animal byproducts and aren't willing to have their misconceptions corrected (like the multiple vegans who think that anyone who doesn't believe that honey is made of ground up bees has been Taken In by Big Honey), I'm going to call bullshit on that one.

However, it's less of an issue than how the same vegans who will shame the hell out of someone for eating a chicken egg from a chicken they keep as a pet because they think the chicken is being exploited have zero issues with their out-of-season plant-based diets and "vegan" clothing options that require environmental devastation and the exploitation of hundreds of thousands of human beings to sustain.

Vegetarians are cool though. The world could use more vegetarians.

[(Anonymous)]

This, honestly. And lol at the bee thing, I couldn’t believe anyone actually thought that when I first saw a post about it on Tumblr!