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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-02-14 06:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #5519 ]


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(Anonymous) 2022-02-15 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it was more militaristic than the other classic trek shows, but it might have seemed like that because four of its season were taking place during a brutal war in which the main characters were directly involved. How did you find it more militarist than the other shows (especially during the first three seasons)? And I can only think of one instance where Sisko commited a possible (I think the planet was unhabited?) war crime. What are the other instances that waranted saying he constantly commited them? I think know the other one you're probably thinking about, but it's not a war crime and how much Sisko himself is responsible in this case is debatable. There's a big difference between morally grey decisions (under extreme circumstances) and actual war crimes. As an answer to someone else: don't forget The Federation isn't Starfleet and vice-versa. Plenty of people in The Federation aren't Starfleet (aka, not military).

(Anonymous) 2022-02-15 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
There's a big difference between morally grey decisions (under extreme circumstances) and actual war crimes.

This was my question. I mean, I remember lots of arguing about war crimes in a GOT context, which was deeply weird. I feel like I no longer know what people mean when they use this term.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2022-02-15 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
When people say war crimes, they generally mean "would the geneva convention allow this" and you're absolutely right that that makes less sense in a lot of sci-fi contexts.

however....it's make the most sense in a star trek context, where presumably people are trying to do a universe where we expect better than geneva level prohibitions.

(Anonymous) 2022-02-16 12:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you, it's the way I understand "war crime" too. But, maybe I need to do a rewatch because, appart from the possible one example (which, arguably, already too much), I still can't think of another instance of a war crime commited by Sisko or another main character. It's the statment that war crimes were an ongoing thing in the show that bugs me.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2022-02-16 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I do think a lot of people don't realize how much is actually justified under the geneva convention. like...unless you're messing with civilians and use mass casualty weapons unduly, it's probably allowed.