[ SECRET POST #806 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #806 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 18 pages, 429 secrets from Secret Submission Post #116.
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Comments

Re: 120

[sparklywalls.livejournal.com]

I'm not really into Joker/Harley but I will read it and speculate but WORD on the Joker-bashing. I've noticed that too and most of the time I'm more likely to agree with the anti-Joker/Harley people but the way some of them go about it makes agreeing really difficult. Ultimately, the Joker is still one of my favourite villains so seeing some ill-thought character bashing gets on my nerves. And yes I know he's an unpleasant individual, especially towards Harley at times BUT that doesn't mean bashing him to promote another ship is ok.

Re: 120

[alocin42.livejournal.com]

Aww, it's nice to hear even some of the non-JxHQ shipping folk agreeing that repeated Joker-bashing gets a bit old! :D

Based on a lot of the non-Joker ship fics you'd think Harley was held together entirely by metal pins from the number of times she's had limbs broken because she got him the wrong kind of cereal or whatever. In BTAS canon she's pushed out of a window once - because she tried to kill Batman. The rest of the time even if he's really pissed off he pretty much he just throws things about or kicks her out - I know kids cartoon and all, they had to keep the tone reasonably light, but for every time he's angry at her there's another moment when they're perfectly happy together or she's sitting on his lap. No one can say it's OOC for the Joker to get mad and if Harley is in the way she's likely to come off worse, but the classic original flavour battered moll syndrome gets overworked IMO.

Sorry I appear to have gone off on a mini rant there despite claiming I wasn't getting into this! ;D

Re: 120

[sparklywalls.livejournal.com]

This is why in BTAS I can accept that it works. In fact, one of my favourite Joker moments (all Joker moments involving all Jokers) involves Harley quite heavily. The way things go down in Return of the Joker wouldn't have had as much of an impact without Harley there to complete the "family".

But I think it's mainly in the comics where my opinion starts to differ. I don't know, I just have a lot of issues with it and that's why I think I tend to prefer Joker on his own there. However, I'm still more than happy to have discussions about DCU Joker/Harley and accept that some people DO like it.