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⌈ Secret Post #5528 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

It's absolutely true that people who are into a ship will take it in all sorts of directions that aren't immediately obvious from what the canon presents - and will make it work because we're invested in making it work. Of course when you see that photomanip of Alan Rickman with like a 12-year-old Emma Watson, it's perfectly reasonable to be horrified. But the majority of the fic and art was not that.

I was most involved during that three-year hiatus between GoF and OotP, and no one knew how the story was going to play out, so there was a lot of room to speculate and a lot of time to write fics that would probably be jossed, but who cares?

It was very popular to set stories after Hogwarts when Hermione is an adult. There was a whole subgenre of stories where Hermione is successful, she's a magical researcher or rising up the ranks at the Ministry of Magic or something, and Snape is a high-end potions specialist ("he's an arse but he's the best in the business" archetype). They have to work together to prevent something terrible, they're the only ones who can do it, they remember Hogwarts and they don't get along at first...which sets up standard story beats for a rivals-to-lovers romance with wizard-war stuff going on too.

(For all its many flaws, I was absolutely delighted that in the alternate timeline in Cursed Child, Snape is the liaison to the resistance fighters Hermione and Ron, and the three of them are clearly bantery good friends who respect and trust each other. Can't take the ship goggles off, I thought, most hilarious polycule ever.)

Basically, I think shipping almost always involves "Drinking the Kool-Aid" to some degree. And when we look at a ship and it squicks us the fuck out, that's at least partially because he haven't drank the Kool-Aid for that ship, and therefore we don't understand what we're looking at.

Exactly. Because you don't have the motivation to look at all the possibilities where this ship could work.

I'm sure there were dead-dove fics where it is just as horrible as you'd think, and Hermione is a manipulated sexually abused child and it's just awful. I can't say that I ever read one, though. Mostly I worked off recs from other people I knew in the ship, because fandom was a lot less centralized then, and stories like that just didn't come up. And it's fine to write them of course, but people who enjoyed the ship in the way my circle did would not have been into them.

Thank you so much for being open-minded and about this, by the way. Conversations like this are so valuable and I wish they were easier to come by.

It's almost rekindled my love. Alas, JKR is so horrible I just can't make new HP stuff anymore but I might try to find and reread some old favorites.