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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-02-26 04:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #5531 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5531 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 16 secrets from Secret Submission Post #792.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2022-02-26 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
It is not Batman's fault if, after he drags his Rogues to jail or to Arkham, they then escape and go on a killing spree. There is no blood on his hands because he didn't make himself a murderer to stop them once and for all. The blame is either theirs, in the case of the sane, or on the hands of a system that cannot or will not step up and fund rehabilitation or secure imprisonment for the mentally incompetent. If Gotham doesn't have a death penalty, or if a jury will not sentence them to death, that is not Batman's fault nor his prerogative to overrule. This shouldn't need to be a secret, but apparently some assholes really are just wanting an excuse to kill people (maybe those readers should be sent to Arkham).

I don't care how many edgelord nerds scream for him to murder people. He's not The Punisher in a funny hat.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2022-02-26 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
If we were approaching the Batman universe realistically, and they had a system that was consistently incapable of providing secure imprisonment for superpowered mass murderers and/or people who want to destroy the world, and Batman knew that the system was incapable of providing secure imprisonment for these superpowered mass murderers, then I do think it kind of would be Batman's fault. If he delivers them to prison knowing that they'll escape and murder people, and then they escape and murder people, he would bear responsibility for that.

We shouldn't approach the Batman universe realistically though, because it's not a realistic universe, it's a superhero genre comic. Part of the conceit is that Batman doesn't kill people and that he has a rogue's gallery of recurring supervillains. So the premise is wrong in the first place.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2022-02-26 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
That is not how it works. That is how the Punisher works, that is how angry psychopaths work, but that is not how Batman or normal humans work.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2022-02-26 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
What do you mean?

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2022-02-26 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
If it has to be explained to you, then you wouldn't understand the explanation.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2022-02-26 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Nayrt but this is a hilariously pretentious and toplofty comment considering that y'all are talking about a cartoon superhero

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2022-02-26 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Especially because the anon they were talking to was aware of that, and ayrt seems to not like to be reminded of it.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2022-02-27 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
DA - So you're not confident enough in your argument to expose it to scrutiny. Good to know.
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Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2022-02-27 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
You realize that with this argument this questions the ethics of his activity in toto, right? The police and the jails are not systemically separate; he's either fine with the system or he isn't. There's no reason (nor any ~prerogative) for him to act on the incompetence of enforcement if he won't on the incompetence of incarceration. If he does act on one but not the other, if he does decide that he should have the power to act in one, but not the other, he needs to make a case for why his ethical purpose only involves one and not the other.

also, this is why long-term vigilantes stay in comics.