[ SECRET POST #810 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #810 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 146 secrets from Secret Submission Post #116.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - doing it wrong ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: 103

[7thisgod.livejournal.com]

Don't mind this comment. I just realized I'm not Avatar's target audience and they had to make it clear to everyone the reasons she was having a breakdown. Subtle direction and setting a mood through atmosphere are not priorities for action cartoons.

Re: 103

[(Anonymous)]

Are you that same person who posts those pictures comparing how Avatar conveys emotion to Eureka Seven as a way to show how Japan does things better on /co/?

Re: 103

[7thisgod.livejournal.com]

What? I don't even like Eureka Seven that much except for the action sequences and episode 25. :/

Re: 103

[(Anonymous)]

Oh ok then.

103 OP

[(Anonymous)]

But there's really no excuse for it after they executed Zhao's fall from grace so well. They set out from the beginning with the idea that Azula's villainy was rooted in "she's just EVIL" which is a death knell for characterization (and there's no excuse for that, either, after they set out and successfully made Mai and Ty Lee both sympathetic and On The Side Of Evil for a very long time.)

Re: 103 OP

[7thisgod.livejournal.com]

Wasn't Azula's villainy rooted in her low self-esteem and desire for approval? The fact that they made this trait so cartoony, poorly developed and obvious was what killed her character for me.

Re: 103 OP

[(Anonymous)]

I got the impression that her villainy was rooted in her EVIL (as demonstrated by her being evil in Zuko Alone) and that any self-loathing from The Beach was too little, too late. (And besides, she had Ozai's approval - that she was so bent up over Ursa also loving Zuko, that's another sign of her being a sociopath, not of deep and meaningful character development.)

Re: 103 OP

[(Anonymous)]

lol because Zhao wasn't "just evil" either

Also might I remind you that his "fall from grace" was him DYING.

Re: 103 OP

[(Anonymous)]

Wrong.

Zhao was a politically ambitious patriot who found what he thought to be a fool-proof method of securing power and immortality through history-making. His fall from grace wasn't dying, it was rooted in overestimation of himself and his abilities, and in killing a greater Spirit.

Azula flew around on a firebending rocket and gave orders like DO WANT I SAY BECAUSE I SAY SO OH NEVER MIND YOU'RE BANISHED.

Re: 103 OP

[(Anonymous)]

Quit being pretentious. He died. The end.

Azula is fourteen fucking years old. Of course she's not going to be the same as Zhao.

Re: 103 OP

[(Anonymous)]

Oh please, so my vocabulary is better than yours, it doesn't mean I'm being pretentious. It just means my vocabulary is better than yours. (You plebe.*)

So tell me, are you one of those who think Azula's just a poor misunderstood child?



*THAT'S being pretentious. In case you missed it**

**THAT's being passive-aggressive.

Re: 103 OP

[(Anonymous)]

Zhao thought he could gain immortality by killing the moon.

Killing the moon.

You think that plan was more nuanced and savvy than the one Azula came up with to raze the Earth Kingdom? Really?

I love both but, uh, neither of them were operating on all cylinders when the end came. That's why their dramatic hubris did them in.

Re: 103 OP

[(Anonymous)]

More nuanced that ~*~*~FEAR MEH CAUSE IM SCAREH!!1~*~*~?

Yes. Killing the moon is ever so slightly more nuanced than that.

Re: 103 OP

[(Anonymous)]

There are plenty of reasons to find Azula lacking as a villain, but I don't think capslock is one of them.

She controlled others through fear from her position of power. She got taken down by said people once they got sick of it and found something worth risking their lives for. I think Mai and Ty Lee's reaction (and Azula's disbelief at that reaction) carries far more character development than Zhao versus the fish.

Re: 103 OP

[(Anonymous)]

Take the last word if you want it, I still think Azula's boring.

Re: 103 OP

[(Anonymous)]

And you are entitled to your opinion. I wasn't trying to change your mind but I was trying to challenge your way of deciding your opinion. Because your reasons for it are screaming passive aggressive butthurt who refuses to accept other people might interpret the canon a different way and then lashes out when people disagree. It's disappointing as a Zhao fan because I like Zhao for the same reasons I like Azula. And to anyone else reading this, the Zhao fans are generally pretty awesome. Honest.

Re: 103 OP

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I like Zhao too, but I generally don't compare him to all the other villains in the show to prove he's the best or something.

Re: 103 OP

[(Anonymous)]

This.

Exactly.

Re: 103 OP

[(Anonymous)]

Oh come on. Cut the bull. You know as well as everyone that the real reason here is that Zhao has a penis and Azula does not. If the genders were switched, Zhao would be a "dumb psychobitch who deserved to die yay Zuko!!" and Azula would be "omg poor baby he was so badass and now he's insane!!!"

Re: 103 OP

[sarajayechan.livejournal.com]

Um.