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⌈ Secret Post #5539 ⌋

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Comments

Re: OP

[meadowphoenix]

I know we're talking in the other thread but I just wanted to respond to these:
Why are they so quick to only see themselves as an innocent hurt person, and not use the fictional imagination to recognize their own capacity for evil acts, and circumstances under which they might be in need of some mercy and a path to redemption?
Because they know how society works most likely. Society is full of standardized social redemption OP. A lot of it is legal. Again, it's standard in Evangelical communities. Once of the reasons fandom identifies with the victim is they already see the social redemptive path for the person who caused harm, so that's not where the society is lacking for them. It may be much better where you are. But the fact of the matter is that in the US, unless you're a very specific type of victim, it's far more likely you're going to be socially cut off for your trauma responses than it is that someone who harmed you isn't going to be able to participate normally in society. Occasionally the harmful person is a very specific type of person, and they don't get restored to society immediately, but usually the victim has to be retraumatized to have that happen so it's going to feel like in the process of someone's redemption their harm continumes. The justice system is shit honestly.

Because if there's no path back after doing something bad, then there's not much incentive to get better because there's nothing to hope for.
This is very general. Path back where?

That's why...movements like prison abolition are so important.
Jail is socially ritualized redemption, that's the stated philosophical purpose, like if you're good with any type of redemption, jail would be such a type. Do you see why I don't think mercy or generosity applies to this, unless you're being specific about the type of redemption you're talking about?

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

My whole point on this has always been: consider the ways in which you might be a villain in someone else's story. No matter how good you think you are, you probably have been one, to someone, at some time.

It's not about social power or evangelical Christianity specifically. I'm from the Bible Belt, I know this mindset well. There's that Saturday night/Sunday morning dichotomy where you sin wildly and then confess, and get lifted up for it. That's not even what I'm talking about.

It's about being willing to identify with a character that people rush to judge unredeemable, because you see something of yourself in them. Snape, Jim Moriarty, Kylo Ren - they all have moments where I'm like oh fuck that's like me, I've felt that.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

I see good points in both you and OP’s comments, but man your first paragraph is so fucking true!! The justice system is horrible!