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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-03-16 07:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #5549 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5549 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-17 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
Those elements are always going to be there, but there's a lot of room for variation in how much they're emphasized.

Take dressing up as a bat - a writer can choose to really emphasize that, so maybe they would go into the psychological ramifications of dressing up as a bat, and how weird it is, and how much it terrifies criminals, and how it makes Batman a semi-mythological figure. Or they can just treat it as a costume that he wears and not spend a lot of time on it beyond that. I prefer a version of Batman where those things aren't as emphasized and where he's not so much larger-than-life. He doesn't need to be history's greatest strategist or the most grimly determined human being in history. I like him more as a guy who's smart, and intuitive, and has a really good understanding of how to use his wealth, and good at fighting and thinking on his feet.

Give you another example of what I mean - think of the Tom Cruise Mission Impossible movies, versus the Daniel Craig James Bond movies. Tom Cruise in the M:I movies is an unstoppable force of nature. There is nothing he cannot do. There's literally a line where they say he's the living manifestation of destiny. There's no supernatural elements in the series but Cruise's character is still portrayed in a way that's large-than-life and superhuman. On the other hand, Craig's Bond is tough and smart and ruthless, but at the end of the day he's just a guy. He's not really large than life or superhuman. He's just a little better of a shot and a little more determined than the other guy.

(Anonymous) 2022-03-17 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
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See, when I think of just some guy, I think more of someone like MCU's Scott Lang. He has a certain skill set, but not a unique one, he's not rich, he's not a genius or even all that intuitive, he's not rich, he's not a fighter, he just blunders into being Ant-Man with someone else's tech.

And I think the money thing is pretty important, since it can be such a huge advantage (it's a big part of what makes someone like Lex Luthor the threat he is to Superman). That, alongside the training, planning, and research Batman does for his chosen vigilante role, makes him somewhat exceptional and formidable, in my mind, even without any hyperintelligence or trauma-induced behavior.

But I think I get what you mean, that you don't like it when the writers make Batman overpowered (the smartest, the toughest, etc.) because they feel like that levels the playing field when he's playing with other superheroes.