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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-03-19 03:23 pm

[ SECRET POST #5552 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5552 ⌋

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Re: Turning Red movie

(Anonymous) 2022-03-20 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT - gotta love that second one, especially since that's the one that seems to be getting traction with actual movie reviewers.

A sampling of things that Pixar has made movie reviewers identify with:
Robots, dogs, birds, bugs, toys, and a lamp.

Yeah, surely a 13-year-old girl is a bridge too far.

Re: Turning Red movie

(Anonymous) 2022-03-20 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT - Right?! I just can't with people, man. Like, I 100% will probably not watch the movie, but not because I am offended by the character choice or anything, or think I can't identify/understand someone who is not me.

It's purely because I have SUCH bad secondhand embarrassment issues and even the trailer had be going nooooooo pleeeeeease, so I don't think I'd survive the movie lol.

Re: Turning Red movie

(Anonymous) 2022-03-21 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I think this is a false equivalence. It's adjacent to "It's easier to accept the impossible than the improbable" when watching a movie. Anthropomorphic objects that don't exist in real life can, in all honesty, be easier to relate to because they're more equivalent to a blank slate to project onto than a type of person that does exist but isn't like you. For example, I'm not an 80-year-old man, so I didn't relate to the main character from Up. That may or may not be why it's one of my least favorite Pixar movies.

Re: Turning Red movie

(Anonymous) 2022-03-21 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
And yet Up was one of Pixar's most popular movies with a strong following outside the octogenarian community, which makes me think that might have been a 'you' problem.

Re: Turning Red movie

(Anonymous) 2022-03-21 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
For real.

Re: Turning Red movie

(Anonymous) 2022-03-21 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
This incessant talk about movies “needing” to be relatable to be good or resonate with people is ridiculous. Like the other anon said, Up was incredibly successful with pretty much every demographic, and it’s not because it was relatable to everyone or something. It was because it was a good movie. Similarly, whether you like or want to watch Turning Red shouldn’t hang completely on whether you can relate to the protagonist. People that age, or people who can went through similar things at that age can relate, and that’s fine. Big that’s just a bonus. It has no bearing on the movie’s actual quality.

Istg, people going on about it like it’s do or die have made me hate the word “relatable” altogether, especially where art is concerned. And it’s because it’s most often used for bad faith criticism.

And your theory about non-human characters being more relatable because they’re blank slates isn’t completely untrue for everyone, but it’s still just conjecture in general. The reason the other Pixar favorites are loved is because they’re also just good movies that people enjoyed watching, like Up. And the ones people almost universally disliked didn’t perform badly because they failed to be relatable, it’s just because they weren’t very good.