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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-03-22 06:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #5555 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5555 ⌋

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Re: What trends in your current fandom do you just not understand?

(Anonymous) 2022-03-23 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you genuinely suggesting that father/son and mother/daughter incest are taboo because of homophobia rather than because they're parent/child incest?

Re: What trends in your current fandom do you just not understand?

(Anonymous) 2022-03-23 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
No? Learn to read.

Re: What trends in your current fandom do you just not understand?

(Anonymous) 2022-03-23 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)
But in case you want to continue to wilfully misunderstand: Parent/Child incest is mainly taboo because of the consent issue. And then you can add the inbreeding issue and homophobia for het and gay incest respectively ON TOP of that.

Re: What trends in your current fandom do you just not understand?

(Anonymous) 2022-03-23 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Parent/Child incest is mainly taboo because of the consent issue.

That's a strikingly modern rationale for why parent/child incest is wrong. We're talking about a taboo that's existed for thousands of years and can be found in virtually every human society, including many societies that have had very different ideas than we do regarding what consent is, whose consent is necessary, and who is able to give consent. Also, the taboo doesn't stop applying even in cases where the parent and child aren't (initially) aware of their familial relationship--see Oedipus and Jocasta for a 2500 year old literary example that still resonates with readers today.

Re: What trends in your current fandom do you just not understand?

(Anonymous) 2022-03-23 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, and this is a heterosexual example. And one that defeats your argument that it's exclusively sociological - the issue is the blood relation in cases where both parties are unaware of the family ties.

Especially if we're talking hundreds/thousands of years ago, with homosexuality being largely criminalised, the issue with same sex incest would have primarily been the same-sex aspect more than the incest itself. Or not, as, for example, in some Greek mythology cases, but incest wasn't a huge issue in those cases either.

Re: What trends in your current fandom do you just not understand?

(Anonymous) 2022-03-23 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
You said, "And yes, those taboos exist as well but they're definitely more of an afterthought in the grand scheme of things, especially since the taboo of same sex relationships is still alive and well in cultures that have strangely few issues with first cousin incest in comparison" which I read as you saying, "Incest taboos surrounding male/male or female/female relationships are definitely more of an afterthought in the grand scheme of things."

If that's not what you meant, then what did "those taboos" refer to in the sentence of yours that I've quoted?

Re: What trends in your current fandom do you just not understand?

(Anonymous) 2022-03-23 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Alright so:
When people talk about incest, the vast majority will think of heterosexual incest. So the homosexual variations are usually an afterthought when talking about incest in general. And in cases where the topic is same-sex incest, the discussion centers more around either the consent angle and/or the same-sex aspect and not so much around the incest itself.