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[ SECRET POST #5567 ]

⌈ Secret Post #5567 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(image is from The Story of Yanxi Palace)

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[image is from One Piece]

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[Mo Dao Zu Shi/The Untamed]

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[Centaurworld]

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[Hogwarts Legacy]

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[How I Met Your Mother]

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Oh yeah, very much so. I blame the AO3 crowd for that.

I blame twitter and the easy access it provided to professional content creators and actors. Closing the distance between the creator and the fans was good in some ways - more accountability for lack of diversity, for one - but terrible in others.

One of those negatives was that people grew used to an online environment where you could directly tweet at people to demand what you wanted to see, and sometimes you got what you wanted. They then classed fanfic writers in the same category, and felt entitled to demand if them as well as they didn't see them as any different to the paid professionals.

Add to that the increase in performative morality, an increase in right-wing activity, and an increase in younger audience members (who have less general awareness of grey areas and are more primed to follow the popular crowd) and this is what you get.

As far as the creators being accessible on Twitter goes, fans can lobby for whatever they like, but there's no obligation to give it to them.

Conversely, there sure are a lot of creators (specifically writing teams for TV shows) who love the adulation and likes and shares and shit. They feed off that energy and encourage it by interacting with fans to stoke their egos. They're perfectly welcome to use social media anonymously or ignore fans, but they don't, so I feel zero pity for them.

It's not about pity, and I'm not saying that being able to have direct contact with paid professional directors and scriptwriters and actors and producers etc etc etc is a bad thing (even if a disapproving tweet is waaaay less influential than people like to think it is!).

What I'm saying is that the current environment is this: fans are able to hold paid professionals to a standard and see other people agreeing and supporting them. That's good! Fans are also assuming as a result that they can hold other fans and their amateur works to the same standards. That's bad! Fandom is about fun and should be accessible for all, not gatekept by people who think if something isn't directly and explicitly for them, it is Bad and should be punished.

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(Anonymous) - 2022-04-03 21:48 (UTC) - Expand

+1000

Can you explain this? I’m just a casual fanfic reader and I feel like I’m missing some context. What exactly are AO3 users doing that you don’t like?

They have a legal fund to try and stop authors and creators from asserting control of their own IPs. They think that if you publish something, then it should be fair game for anyone else to use it as they see fit. Notably this stance does not apply to fanfic authors though, who are entitled to the type of IP protection that Disney would have wet dreams to achieve. AO3 wants to tear up everything we have on copyright law for everyone else though.

Oh, word?

...I think you need to do a bit more research on the subject.

lmao

Do you even fandom? Are you Anne Rice's ghost?

Someone making fanworks doesn't affect anyone's copyright.

I wish AO3 were destroying copyright.

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What? What legal fund? AO3 is just fanfic. Fanfic doesn't do anything to copyright unless someone tries to make money from their fic.

Kid. Drink some water. Get some sleep. Come back when you're not bugfuck flaming crazy. Okay?

Oh no. You need to learn what fair use is. And the predatory practices of copyright holders in quashing everything.

I believe people have been writing fanfic for millenia before AO3 (Dante's Inferno? Even if it is as a critique of society). Also, even if AO3 didn't have a legal fund,that's not stopping anyone from making mailing lists and writing fic from a notebook. Echoing the fair use and whatnot comments.

Tell me you don't understand copywrite law without telling me you don't understand copywrite law.

No they don’t, and I knew you would go down this conspiracy theory road, because I knew you were the “AO3 is the work of demons who want to strip the rights of IPs from creators and undermine the very concept of copyright!” idiot the moment you immediately connected the concept of fandom entitlement as a whole to AO3 with no reasoning. Not everything is about your AO3 hateboner, and nobody asked to see your crazy “evidence” board.

You're just an anti mad that AO3 isn't taking down those terrible terrible badwrong fics even when you stomped your feet and threw a tantrum, aren't you

Well this is inaccurate.

Are you the anon who just likes to shit on AO3 all the time, or do you have a point to this?

DA

Yup, it's the "AO3 IS DESTROYING COPYRIGHT!!1!" troll.

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Yep.

Do you ever stop? Could you, please? Because you're really fucking annoying.

Really? I blame instant-gratification everything for that. Kind of like when you go to the internet and post an obviously inflammatory comment, in the hopes you'll have angry people's tears to jerk off with five minutes later. Except with other people, they have either grown accustomed to instant feedback to something they wrote/created, or else they have never known a world where that wasn't a thing.

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