[ SECRET POST #5569 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5569 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

So are we saying any media that depicts any police officer sympathetically is copaganda? And if so, why are we singling out Ben Aaronovitch?

[(Anonymous)]

I think we're societally in a place where media depicting a police officer in a sympathetic light is copaganda, yes. I don't mean to single him out, all in all, that's just what this secret happens to be about.

[(Anonymous)]

A police officer helped me once when I was lost and suffering from dehydration. Real life is copaganda.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT--I've seen cops break a man's arm for losing a trolley pass and laugh off one of my mentally ill family member's "patrolling the perimeter" of my mom's house with his arsenal of guns and refusing to let anyone leave; they only gave a fuck when he got in an armed standoff with cops and it turned out he'd illegally modified a bunch to be fully automatic and fire armor-piercing rounds, so he could kill cops and not just my mom and I.

They also threatened to shoot my (small, silly, floppy) dogs because they were with my mom when she called the cops on the gun mad relative; they demanded we take the dogs elsewhere before they came to check out gun dude, ignoring that we couldn't leave or take the dogs anywhere without risking being shot.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah but you're in America. The British police have their own problems, but overall it's little league stuff compared to America.

[(Anonymous)]

As far as guns and racism, maybe. But police brutality is still a problem in the UK.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think anyone ITT is arguing against the position that the police, as an institution, are bad. Nor - so far as I can tell - is anyone arguing against the position that individual police officers are in some broad sense culpable for that badness.

That is just not the argument that is taking place here.

[(Anonymous)]

*the police in the US are bad

[(Anonymous)]

*and everywhere else. This is not only an American problem and you know it.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sorry that happened to you.

But also: some of us do not live in nightmare dystopias. Our opinion of policing is going to differ from yours, because the policing we experience is not like that. That does not make us propagandists when we talk about our experiences.

[(Anonymous)]

^ This right here.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT--if you're talking about policing in the UK as opposed to the US, I first heard of the term and tactic "kettling" in reports of London cops' treatment of protestors. Also there was that fairly recent case where a woman was raped and murdered by a cop in the UK and instead of going "oh shit we're so sorry we didn't stop this dude before he killed someone" cops closed ranks and treated protestors like shit. And the refusal to investigate Boris Johnson's "work event" Covid superspreader lockdown parties.

And I don't follow UK news that closely, so I'm almost certainly missing something. If you're not talking about the UK, please tell me of the mythical land with cops that aren't at least 40% power hungry abusive shitheads, 50% head in the sand just in it for the paychecks, 5% gonna be fired for doing the right thing and turning shithead coworkers in, and 5% absolute stone cold fucking monsters.

UK cops may not all carry guns and therefore are less likely to murder civilians with them, but pigs gonna oink.

I like the Rivers of London series, btw, but I assume so many decent cops working together to help people is more a fantasy than the magic and river goddesses and talking foxes.

[(Anonymous)]

A few bad ones us not 50% of cops. They're not perfect, but it's a lot better than the fucked up dystopia that is the US. Americans just can't see beyond their own shores and experiences though.

[(Anonymous)]

You're so blinded by the fact that you don't live in the US that you can't see you live in a dystopia too. You were taught in school that your country is good because it's not a hellhole like the US. And you say we're the brainwashed ones.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't bother. They only cry about generalisations when it's about a group they belong to.

[(Anonymous)]

This is IMAX level projection on your part. Because you only cry generalization when it’s a group or country you’re a part of.

[(Anonymous)]

+1000

[(Anonymous)]

You’re so blinded by your hatred of America and desire to use it as a scapegoat for everything, while projecting your own thin-skin over your own country onto America, that you can’t see that it’s not a fucked up dystopia. It has a lot of problems, but so does literally every other country on earth. You just hear about only the bad parts of America, and feel it’s fair to paint the entire country with a broad brush based on it. Which is hypocritical, because people like you never tolerate people doing that to where you live. And I think it’s unfair when other countries besides America are generalized and insulted based on narrow-minded assumptions too, so I wouldn’t disagree with you for getting upset if someone did that to your country. Just pointing out that it would still be hypocrisy.

You just have no perspective or self-awareness, and that’s why it’s so easy for you to not use your brain to think for one moment that maybe the bad things you hear on the news isn’t indicative of an entire large country and the over 300 million people that live there. Because in reality, the news always focuses on the negative. You’d think a grown adult with a working brain would know that by now.

Inb4 “lol triggered American”, which is the only “argument” to expect from people who act like you. You can make up whatever tone you want from my comment, it doesn’t matter. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[(Anonymous)]

This.

[(Anonymous)]

America is not a nightmare dystopia just because the police force as an institution sucks ass. There’s a lot of problems in the US, but I’m sick of people treating it like the worst country in the world.