[ SECRET POST #5569 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5569 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 20 secrets from Secret Submission Post #797.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Name the fandom. And repeats, etc.

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01. https://i.imgur.com/FzxDbKm.png

[(Anonymous)]

I know, it's both baffling AND kind of toxic, but I don't really get into much discussion with other fans about it outside of FS. It's been a case of culture shock, getting used to the casual sexism and antiquated gender roles in cdramas. AT BEST, you still get remarks like, "She couldn't do [something good OR something bad], she's just a girl!" when referring to adult women. And that was in a modern cdrama, mind you, not a historical one.

But I also see some major crushing on the male lead (especially if it's a popular actor) and a lot of the hate comes from toxic jealousy that is (somehow) socially acceptable? I see this more in the actual Chinese-in-mainland-China fandom, not the western portion, though I don't doubt it exists there, too.

It's also really, really rare to see a truly independent female lead. A lot of them start off promisingly, but as soon as the romance arc reaches a certain point they're reduced to the same stereotype of the child-like fragile flower. Any abilities or goals they might've started with sometimes just... vanish? Because their whole world now centers around the male lead, and nothing else. It's one of my least favorite things about cdramas, and this is usually why I avoid the romances.

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I must ask, what fandoms love strong female leads? I'm a slasher, I'm focused on two guys in my fandoms, so I may be missing these fandoms, but I can't even think of what they might be. Hit me!

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, agreed. It's pretty unfortunate that some fans are way behind the times when it comes to not being shitty about female characters. I know the intended Chinese audience still has this problem, but really, the English-speaking audience wants to do this too? It's dumb.

[(Anonymous)]

I can only speak from my experience and my POV as a first gen South East Asian American woman, and I am aware my POV isn't representative of majority/other Asian women. From my experience, Asian communities still have a lot of internalized misogyny that goes unchallenged and unaddressed. Many individuals want to uphold traditions and that includes upholding the patriarchy and placing value on women creating and caring for a family (so if a guy gives a woman attention she better take it because the worst thing in the world is being a woman alone).
And that's why I don't talk to people about watching Asian dramas. I'm tired of hearing women yet again bash another woman because she isn't living up to the Asian ideal of being self sacrificing by giving up our personal hopes and dream and potential because a guy came in and he's the main character now. And let's not forget the gay panic scare too. A woman's lack of interest in "catching" the guy might make the heroine a lesbian, oh no, Asian women can't be gay or queer. 🙄 Just...so many things. It's best for me to watch and enjoy in silence.

And it's not just women from the motherland. Not just boomer/elder millennial women. It's a big issue that is difficult for me to talk to other Asian women about. Like, even with my own sisters it's difficult to have a nuanced conversation with them about the female experience.

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My middle-aged Chinese colleague is sometimes hard to deal with, because she has that attitude to women in every aspect of her life. I think it's a cultural thing, reinforced by their media and government.

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I mean, can't you see the genesis of this in the way these shows treat the female characters? It's slightly less BS when it's a lady in the lead versus just supporting, but even then...

And I could be wrong about this but when it comes to Cdrama, I feel like things have gotten somehow *worse* with female characters over the thirty years I've been tuning in. It's to the point where if Zhou Xun isn't playing the lead I don't bother, because I can't be sure the show wouldn't enrage me. (Zhou Xun is never not a badass, even in the dreaded gongdou genre that was rightly complained about a few days ago.)

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02. https://i.imgur.com/SCxmtCD.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Me too, nonny! And yes, it was wayyyyy funnier that way.

[(Anonymous)]

OP must be very young!

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Well, I learned something today!

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Aaaand now it's stuck in my head. Thanks, OP.

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This is a cute secret! But I disagree on it not being as funny if you know what it’s referencing. That’s probably because I was already familiar with the song/show, and thought George making his own version of Believe it Or Not for his answering machine was hilarious, though! And the girl he’s avoiding talking to because she’s trying to dump him complaining about his answering machine message made it even funnier!

So since I came out of the episode with the opposite experience than you in being familiar with the reference, I can’t personally imagine it being funnier if I thought it was original. Because it would seem too random to me, and the song would seem to disjointed.

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[(Anonymous)]

I honestly loved the remake! Maybe not as much as the original, but I still thought it was good!

And I agree about the game remake too! I adore the PS2 game, so I remake would be amazing! I kind of doubt it would happen, but I can still dream!

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[(Anonymous)]

Me too, OP! Actually, I wanted her whole outfit. It looks so lovely.

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[(Anonymous)]

I mean, they definitely had the most nuanced and developed relationship in the show. Everybody else met in the game, whereas they'd know each other since they were children. And ultimately Gi-Hun was willing to have done it all for nothing, if it meant not killing Sang-Woo, which is a pretty strong testament to how much Sang-Woo meant to him.

I don't ship it myself, but, I mean, I kinda get it.

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Even his Culture ripoff novel for Doctor Who is dripping with copaganda, the guy has issues with sucking up to cops.

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Big and chunky, nice. Love the radar head too.

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I'm on a diet due to my busted liver, so please, everyone, tell me about your recent meals. Or meals you are planning on having. Let me live, culinary speaking, vicariously through you.

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