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[ SECRET POST #815 ]

⌈ Secret Post #815 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.

[Weird Al Yankovic and Stephen Colbert]

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[Yu-Gi-Oh]

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[Rachael Maddow]

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[The Office]

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[Phantom of the Opera]

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[previously linked wrong]

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[hunter s. thompson]

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[Hotel Babylon]

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[jake hurwitz]

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[but why not the men?]

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[Naruto]

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[Jade Goody]

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[previously linked wrong]

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[High School Musical]

Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 11 pages, 275 secrets from Secret Submission Post #116.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 4 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - doing it wrong ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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101: I support this idea, for it is fun.

106: Actually I agree. I wish I had a quick way of knowing what stuff was in a secret, if it looks interesting. This makes me a hypocrite though cause I've never tagged any of my secrets. I'll start though.

112: We're all that fan for somebody or something. Your statement would be more powerful though if you weren't still hiding behind an anonymous secret.

115: I don't keep up on this stuff but isn't Simon already with somebody? I have no idea about Paula.

119: Uh...while I agree with you about Erik/Christine being really unhealthy despite the fact I ship it (cause I just enjoy fucked up couples like that) your bonus secret...how???

124: You shouldn't watch a show for just one character, it limits you. I've started watching things cause I liked one character but I gave the others a chance. You're missing out.

125: Agreed. Fandom has gotten ridiculous with the bigotry accusations. Who exactly are we allowed to dislike? Oh and OP I like a lot of those characters too.

128: Well technically being an atheist just means you don't believe in a deity. It doesn't necessarily mean you can't believe in an afterlife.

130: Awww. While I ship Spock/McCoy I also like them as just really good friends. And your secret is very sweet.

135: Well as long as you know you're pathetic.

136: Fucked up couples are fun aren't they?

142: I haven't had a chance to see it. No I'm not angry about the spoiler. I'm very happy. Thank you OP, I'm glad to hear the couple I've loved since the miniseries got their happy ending.

144: Sounds like your friend is in denial in a few different ways.

145: Being fat is not a disgrace.

146: It means you're a homophobic monster and you should be ashamed! Ashamed!!! No it means it's not your thing and you should just not read it. Unless you're going out of your way to harass actual gay males and infringe on their rights, you've done nothing wrong. M/M just isn't one of your kinks.

148: Oh no, I'm going to be thirty in a little over a month. I'm gonna be a loser!! Oh...no wait I don't have a cat, I'm okay. Unless my Webkinz cat counts. *paranoid*

162: I agree. Smut is fun but it should never be the focus of a fandom. The source material should.

115. They're both single at the mo. Simon and his long-time girlfriend Terri broke up over the summer and Paula's been single since the end of last season I believe.

Ah, okay, well then cool if they hook up. I just wouldn't want to see other people get hurt for it. If they're both single, then it's cool.

119. I think OP was just trying to troll with that one. I mean, you spend the entire secret bashing a popular ship and then throwing in an opinion sure to drive musical fans - or, indeed, people who aren't tone-deaf - up the wall? Sounds like a troll to me. ^__^;;

146. Excellent response, and I second it whole-heartedly!

162. I think the problem is that it's a lot easier for people to write smut than actual in depth fic, because they know that writing actual fic is hard and they don't know if they're up to it. Given time, fandoms calm down, but at first - smutsmutsmut.

119: Yeah I can see that being a troll secret. The first secret doesn't bother me cause it does make sense. I may love Erik/Christine but it's not healthy. The second just...I hope it's not serious, that would scare me.

146: Thank you!

162: I get the whys, but it still makes me sad. I still think the source material should be the focus of a fandom, not smut or for that matter even fic.

119. Well, yeah, Erik/Christine is unhealthy. I suspect that's why some people like it (not to mention the strong romantic element ALW threw in there, which is the reason the rest of the people like it! Come on, the source material of musical - though not book - deliberately tries to make Raoul uninteresting next to awesome!Phantom; you can't help but be swayed by it even if you know intellectually that it's unhealthy. That's why it's a kickass musical. ^____^ )

162. Yes, I understand your view, though I think fic needs to play a large part in fandom - the "alternative" endings, missing places, etc. come out and you sometimes get really awesome stories out of it. But if you forget the source, you kind of forget the point of the fandom...(with some exceptions, where the fandom has outclassed the actual source. It happens...)

While I can concede the importance of fanfic, I don't think it needs to play a huge part. One of the reasons I tend to be more into RL fandom then online fandom is because RL fandom doesn't focus on that sort of thing. Fanfic exists in RL in the form of fanzines and fanmovies and such, but the focus is still on the source. For instance I belong to the Star Trek fandom in RL. I get together with friends and we watch Star Trek and talk about things that happened in the episodes and characterization and have debates and all that. None of them, to my knowledge, write Trek fic.

Fandom shouldn't outclass the source, not saying it doesn't, I'm saying it shouldn't. The reason a person is a fan is because they're a fan of the source.

I acknowledge your point, though I still personally enjoy fic tremendously and think it should play an important role - it gives people a chance to share their imaginings on the source, giving other fans a whole new perspective on things they might not have considered before. One can achieve that with simple discussion, but usually not in such an eloquent way.

Besides, I desperately longed to join RL fandom groups when I was younger, but I lived nowhere near them and was incredibly shy. So instead I interacted with the source material alone, creating new scenarios, etc; only when I discovered online fandom did I share them. (also, I love sitting and watching things and making comments, but a lot of my friends live very far away from me and I can't share comments via IM/internet, so we discuss and fic to connect about thing)

Fandom sometimes does, and rightfully so. There are some really badly made fandoms that still attract people - not because of the source material, but because of the possibilities inherent in the source materials. The source itself is uninteresting, the fandom/fic potential is marvelous. It happens, and it's just as legitimate as other fandoms. Which are in turn as legitimate as, say, fandoms made for people's fic! ^^

I think I got burned out on fanfic because of the whole feedback thing. I don't have to give feedback to the source. I mean I can write letters to them if I want but I don't feel obligated to do so. Also sadly 99% of fanfic runs the gamut between "Oh my God this is terrible." to "Oh my God, what were they thinking this is terrible." Which goes back to the feedback thing. I can't tell people they suck. I want them to have fun. I want them to be able to write their terrible stories with OCs and absurd plotlines cause they're having fun.

Also I'll own up and say part of my reason for not wanting it to be the focus of my fandom life anyway, is that I don't really write fanfic anymore. I'm not here to be the support mechanism of other fans. I'm here to spend time with people who love the same things I do. Maybe it's a kind of bewildered bitterness but there's no place for me in fandom anymore.

I know it's blasphemy to admit it, but I find the original Christine and Erik to be thoroughly annoying voices. I don't understand the Emmy Rossum hate, and while Gerard Butler isn't the best singer, he had a far more seductive quality, IMO. Even if he wasn't great at vocals, I think he played the character better.

I don't hate Emmy Rossum at all. I thought she was very endearing. For me though, sorry man but Michael Crawford just beats out Gerard Butler so bad, simply because of the vocals. The point of the Phantom is that his voice is beautiful and mesmerizing and etc etc etc. If you don't have good vocals you don't have a good musical!Phantom. Now if you don't like Crawford you can argue that his vocals aren't good either. That's fair enough. It's all opinion. Heck my favorite Phantom movie is the Claude Raines version and that's a WTF adaption that I only like cause it's Claude Raines. XD

Hey, me too (the "thirty in a little over a month" part)! AND I have a cat!

Can we have some special celebration or something? Shall I order a tee-shirt with a pic of my cat, the number 30 and a caption that reads "I fail at life"?

LOL! Sure! And I'll get one that says "I fail at life" and right underneath it'll say "I don't even have a cat." XD

Oh and May 1st, what's yours?

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