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[philstar22]

But I think when your messaging gets in the way of your story, then you aren't doing a very good job as a writer. I think that happened with Lewis, with Pullman, a whole lot with Goodkind. Messages themselves aren't bad, but when they take over and get in the way, then that's bad writing.

[(Anonymous)]

That depends on whether the aim of the author was to tell a good story first, or to tell a good religious story. Those are very different goals and to say "it got in the way of itself" when the aim was the latter and not the former is projecting your intent on the author.

If a message was the point and the message was delivered, that's good writing. You may not *like* the writing, but that doesn't make it "bad at what it set out to do." Lewis did a good job at what he set out to do.

I don't like any of the books you mentioned, btw.

[(Anonymous)]

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[sabotabby]

Oh, for sure. That's what I mean by critiquing on their own merits. Most of Narnia is successful as both a story and theology, but IMO The Last Battle fails in major ways as the former. With Pullman, I'd say Amber Spyglass fails in very similar ways. (I haven't read Goodkind.)

[philstar22]

That's exactly how I feel. With Narnia, the Last Battle is the one that doesn't work for me (well, there are some parts of some of the others that don't as well). With Pullman, I love the first two, but Spyglass just doesn't work for me. With Goodkind, I enjoy the first two books and the fourth, though even those ones are kind of preachy. But after the fourth the books are more message than story.

[(Anonymous)]

I found Pullman's messaging more annoying than that in the Narnia books - and I'm an atheist.

[(Anonymous)]

Ditto. I have plenty of issues with Christianity and especially evangelical Christians, but Pullman's message was less subtle than a projectile brick.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, I wasn't raised Christian, had no idea until years later that any of Narnia was about Christianity, and thought The Last Battle was dumb, cruel and bad.