[ SECRET POST #5576 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5576 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

02. https://i.imgur.com/EMBKMat.jpg

[greghousesgf]

because the men who wrote the bible considered sluttiness worse than murder

[philstar22]

Not the ones who wrote the Bible, she isn't slutty in the Bible. It was the ones who came after that decided she must have been slutty because slutty is the worst thing for a woman to be, and Jezebel was evil and the worst woman ever, so of course she must have been slutty.

[(Anonymous)]

There's sluttiness implied in the Bible, though. Not saying it was correct or justified, but her enemies specifically refer to what is translated as her "harlotries" or "acts of prostitution" along with witchcraft in 2 Kings 9:21-23.

21 Then Joram said, [a]“Make ready.” And his chariot was made ready. Then Joram king of Israel and Ahaziah king of Judah went out, each in his chariot; and they went out to meet Jehu, and [b]met him on the property of Naboth the Jezreelite. 22 Now it happened, when Joram saw Jehu, that he said, “Is it peace, Jehu?”

So he answered, “What peace, as long as the harlotries of your mother Jezebel and her witchcraft are so many?”

23 Then Joram turned around and fled, and said to Ahaziah, “Treachery, Ahaziah!”

It's the classic combination of slut-shaming and sorcery accusations that later generations would expand upon, but they had this to base it upon.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

While it's all connected yes, and implied, yes, I just want to point that the secret is referring to Jezebel in the New Testament (in the time of Herod) vs Old Testament Jezebel, which happened way before NT Jezebel. Technically two different ladies. NT Jezebel was a dancer or something to that effect.

[(Anonymous)]

Being a slut and a harlot is just the easiest and most convenient way for men to blacken a woman's name and reputation - and that's still true today. All the other stuff you describe has been done by men plenty of times. But calling her a painted whore is the attack that will stick. :(

[philstar22]

Basically, because she was an evil woman, of course she had to be slutty. Slutty was the evilest a woman could be, so the evilest of women had to be slutty. So men just assumed she had to be slutty even though she doesn't appear to have been, at least from the passages written about her.

[(Anonymous)]

See also: Cleopatra

[philstar22]

Very good point. And looking at the artwork from the time depicting Cleopatra, she's not particularly beautiful either in a modern sense or even, in our understanding, what was considered beautiful today. What she had was power. She was a powerful woman who knew how to use her power and that attracted men to her.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, she was described by people who met her as not beautiful but very intelligent and witty with irresistable charm.

[(Anonymous)]

But it's the flip side of Jezebel - if she had power it could only be because she was beautiful.

Men really are simpletons, aren’t they?

[(Anonymous)]

Everybody always hates on the women.

[meadowphoenix]

I think your missing logical connection is that Baalism, and to some extent all paganism, was viewed as inherently licentious, partially because sex wasn't as big as deal and women has seemingly significantly more agency in it but also because women had significantly more power. To a notoriously patriarchal culture, her pushing of this licentious religion meant that she herself was licentious.

And above all else the pushing of paganism is her worst crime. All the other crimes are symptoms of her following the wrong god, so calling her licentious is indeed talking about her main fault, from which all other faults flowed. Also misogyny.

[(Anonymous)]

Monotheistic religions tend to have a hate-boner for women, that and a weird daddy complex.

[(Anonymous)]

It's like Kirk Drift, basically.