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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-04-19 08:04 pm
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(Anonymous) 2022-04-20 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Oh honey, no.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-20 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
That is literally the opposite of how good writing works, holy hell. What is she on.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-20 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Your friend is way too old to have such bizarre and unrealistic ideas about how writing works. Can't believe writing non fiction is her day job, tbh...surely that requires editing, too? I hope you absolutely refuse to let her vent to you on this subject. She's being ridiculous.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-20 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
She's a perfectionist with crippling perfectionism. I would know, I'm also one.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-20 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
I mean... possibly, but that's missing a lot of nuance in what OP is describing. It isn't that her friend is a perfectionist and therefore nothing is ever good enough to publish, it's that her friend expects perfection to happen in ONE DRAFT with no revisions. Seems to me that perfectionists are more prone to revise and revise and revise because they're never happy with the result.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-20 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
da

Some perfectionists revise endlessly. Some perfectionists scrap everything if they hit a snag. It's the same "if it's/I'm not perfect, it's/I'm garbage", just manifesting in different ways.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-20 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
This.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-20 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
+1, I have a friend who is a terrific artist but failed out of art school because she just couldn't let it go and hand in the assignment. She's posted a grand total of about 3 things online in 20 years, all of which were very popular, but that's compared to hundreds of works that she just can't bear. She's a good friend otherwise, but her anxiety can be really draining. Fortunately, she has a job unrelated to art.
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[personal profile] arcanetrivia 2022-04-21 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

I'm in this photo and I don't like it.jpg :P

(Anonymous) 2022-04-20 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
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where does she work where her non-fiction stuff doesn't need multiple drafts?

I'm a slight bit jealous

(Anonymous) 2022-04-20 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Probably corporate communication, or in an SEO mill.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-20 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
I was wondering about that too! I also write pro non-fiction (arts journalism-related) and I get edited to the moon and back. Which is a good thing too, my editors are great. I've never published a first draft with no rewrites, that just doesn't happen!

(Anonymous) 2022-04-20 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
I . . . Huh? She doesn’t do multiple drafts with nonfiction either? How the hell does that work?

(Anonymous) 2022-04-20 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. I admit I can be a little heartless about these things, but my time and energy are very limited resources. Unless this friend brought a LOT to the table in terms of being an awesome friend, I'd slow-fade this person ASAP. She sounds like... a lot.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-20 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
I have sympathy for your friend because it sounds like there's a wider problem there. On the other hand though, the fact that she's not listening to you is yeah, not great at all.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-20 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I can't draft for shit and have never been able to, but I am wildly aware that it's a problem. It is, in fact, probably the main problem preventing me from becoming a reasonably decent (fic) writer.

If your friend were like eighteen I would understand why she has the perspective she does (i.e. immaturity and lack of experience as a writer). But as someone well into adulthood it's a bit baffling--not that she can't/doesn't draft, but that she hasn't figured out drafting is a deeply beneficial and important part of the process.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-20 06:25 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe you could direct her to videos, articles, ect. of professional writers talking about how the process actually works? Although she probably hasn't gone this long without hearing something about it and just deciding for some reason it doesn't apply to her... I don't know what I'd try other than that.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-20 09:17 am (UTC)(link)
What on Earth? I would never finish a single story.
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