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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-04-02 06:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #818 ]


⌈ Secret Post #818 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 077 secrets from Secret Submission Post #117.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 - doing it wrong ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

130 tl;dr

[identity profile] kuromitsu.livejournal.com 2009-04-03 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
The thing is, "IC" is very subjective, and there are a lot of people who expect that characters in slashfics conform to a "standard of male gayness" to be IC and realistic, and look down on people who don't share their views.

Taking myself for example, I like seme/uke. I prefer it, actually. Were I to write a story about X/Y with sex scenes where X tops Y it'd be still completely IC for me. But I'd get at least one comment or a rant saying how it's not realistic because Y is too manly to be on bottom and anyway Real Gay Sex is not like that blah blah blah.(*) and I'm doing it wrong and I must be an idiot teenage fangirl who hasn't seen the light yet.

And this is what has been irking me about English language fandom ever since I became involved in it. So many people think that realism is the only way to go and people must be as realistic as possible or else they're doing it wrong. It annoys me when I read slashfic where the author obviously has the couple switch just because she's afraid that otherwise the story wouldn't be realistic, or where authors feel the need to justify everything that may not conform to the perceived rules of real male gayness. It weirds me out that people apparently should feel guilty about enjoying stuff if it's not completely realistic.

(*Ignoring, for the moment, the gross misbeliefs and stereotypes people have about seme/uke dynamics; or the fact that real gay men are not a homogenous group and I happen to know gay guys who are exclusively tops/bottoms; or the fact that contrary to popular belief being on bottom does not emasculate a guy.)

Re: 130 tl;dr

(Anonymous) 2009-04-03 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)
ILU

-worshiping from afar.

Re: 130 tl;dr

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2009-04-03 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS. All of it.

And unless we actually see the characters having sex in canon, how they prefer to express themselves sexually is very much up to the author's interpretation.